Due to financial reasons, this RecommendedStations.com website will be shutting down within the next 1-2 months. It may pop up elsewhere, but until then, you can stay up to date on all things Internet radio and Como Audio via Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/RecommendedStations/membership
If you need to contact me, I’m always available at: pskiera@recommendedstations.com
For personal reasons, my website blog is on hiatus until further notice, but I haven’t gone away. I continue to blog regularly on Patreon (link at the end), but if you’re not a member, you’ll find information below.
Thank you for your continued support!
Enjoy the music,
Peter Skiera
What gave you the idea to write about Internet radio stations?
Peter:At the audio company I worked for prior to Como Audio, we had 5 or 6 people in the radio/music industry each pick a standout Internet radio station every month to recommend to our customers. The thinking was, there were so many Internet stations, this would steer customers to some great listening that they might not otherwise discover on their own. These people werenât paid but we did have to âdonateâ an Internet radio to each of them. Part of my job was managing that team.
Soon after I joined Como Audio and was asked by our Marketing Manager to write for the website blog, I decided to include my own recommendations for great Internet radio stations. But instead of recommending one station every month, I recommended six stations every six months. According to the analytics, these articles became the most read on Comoâs Tech Rap blog. Readers emailed me complaining that they didnât want to have to wait 6 months to find out about new stations and asked me to recommend stations on a monthly basis. There was no way I could come up with six standout Internet stations every month.
When Como Audioâs sales began to decline and my salary was cut multiple times, I stopped writing for the blog and started writing one Recommended Station and one Hitchhiker Station (a strange station) on Patreon for $1/month hoping it would help make up for the lost income. It didnât, but I kept it going anyway because I really enjoyed doing it and I liked the challenge.
How do you find your Recommended and Hitchhiker Stations?
Peter:Itâs not easy! There are certainly plenty of Internet stations out there, but quantity shouldnât be confused with quality. It requires sampling lots of stations on an almost daily basis. But it doesnât end there. Once I find a potential candidate, I listen for weeks if not months to be sure the station is reliable and the programming is consistent.
Hitchhiker Stations are more difficultâŚlike finding a needle in a haystack. Itâs exciting when I discover one, and despite all of the weird stations Iâve uncovered over the years, Iâm always surprised at what I find.
Itâs a lot of pressure to deliver one Recommended Station and now two Hitchhiker Stations every month. I always worry that at some point I wonât have one. So far, that hasnât happened, but it will probably happen one day.
Has AI changed the way you write your articles?
Peter:No. I donât use AI for my articles. I did, however, use it to help me create some songs which Iâve posted on Bandcamp (link at the end).
Whatâs the most frustrating part of what you do?
Peter:Without a doubt, itâs trying to get Internet stations to respond to my Story Behind the Station questions. Iâm very aggressive at trying get the answers because I think hearing directlyfrom the stations themselves enhance the listening experience. You would think stations would embrace free promotion. In a lot of cases, my gmails get marked as spam and as a result, the stations never see my questions. In other cases, the stations think itâs a scam or that I want money in return for endorsing their station, neither of which is true, but I guess thatâs the age we live in today.
The other very frustrating thing is when non-Patreon members email me for help with their Como music system. I help them out and then ask that they join my Patreon for a couple of months in return. They don’t. So, I won’t be doing that anymore. I canât afford to work for free, and honestly, I donât think I should have to.
Whatâs the best thing about what you do?
Peter: Getting an email from a member thanking me for turning them on to a great station.
My rare WBACH bumper sticker- one of the stations I worked at.
Do you think your experience in radio broadcasting and consumer audio is helpful?
Peter:Definitely. I worked in radio. I sold radios. I helped manufacture radios. I own many radios. And of course, I listen to radio. This affords me a deeper insight and a unique perspective. Despite 100,000+ Internet stations and millions of Internet radio users, Iâm the only person who does this, which is just fine by me.
Are you doing anything new for 2025?
Peter:Yes! This year I decided to shake things up a bit and try to put more of an emphasis on genres I normally donât focus on, but without going off the rails. Iâll still feature more conventional genres here and there, but I wanted to take myself out of my comfort zone more often than I usually do.
The other new thing is that I officially launched a brand-new Internet radio station! Iâve been wanting to do this for the last 15 months but life got in the way. Iâm very excited about it which is unusual for me because I normally have to take a pill to get excited. Itâs called Fluffing a Duck Radio and itâs a very unique, mostly instrumental music station. I recently uploaded new jingles and more music so thereâs now almost 800 tracks in the library. Please give it a listen (link at the end).
And as I mentioned, Iâve also released some custom music on Bandcamp which you can download for free.
The last new thing is a slight change. My bi-annual Station Directory which lists all of my Recommended Stations, will be available only to my Elite and Super Elite supporters going forward.
What Internet radio stations do you listen to regularly?
Peter:This may come across as shameful self-promotion, but if I answer honestly, I listen to my own Internet stations, Wind Chime Radio and Fluffing a Duck Radio. I listen to beautiful music station The Elegant Sound which I perform volunteer (i.e. non-paying) voice work for. And I also rotate amongst many of my Recommended Stations.
Whatâs one change you would make to the Internet radio menu if you could?
Peter:Iâve asked the radio station aggregator more than once to please add a âHigh qualityâ category to the Stations menu. For example, if you were to search under âJazzâ in this High-quality category, only those jazz stations that streamed above 128 kbps would be listed. For those listeners wanting the ultimate sound quality, it would make finding such stations much easier.
What was the first Internet radio model you managed as a Product Manager?
Peter:That would be NetWorks. It sounded very good but the display was pretty awful and the controls were on the back except for a multifunction wheel on the top. This resulted in a nice, clean design, but forced the user to use the remote control (there were no apps back then) unless they wanted to be driven insane by blindly working the controls on the rear while looking at the display on the front. I didnât design it; I just managed the development. It was also stupid expensive. For all the development work we put into it, it wasnât a strong seller due to the price and because a lot of consumers didnât understand the technology back then.
Our original staff from our first office in Boston, MA circa 2016. Thatâs CEO DeVesto on the right in black. Iâm behind him in the blue denim shirt. Photo by Brian Walsh.
What do you miss most about your job at Como Audio?
Peter: I miss many things, like the interaction with our office staff. We had a very small staff, but we got along well and it was a pleasure to work with everyone. Iâm sad that we didnât stay in touch, though I occasionally speak with the former CEO, the former Marketing Manager, and our former IT guy. Iâm not an outgoing person and I donât make friends easily so I tend to value the few relationships I make along the way. Itâs unfortunate that you can work so closely with people for 7 years and then never hear from them again, but thatâs the way itâs been with every job Iâve had. People move on with you or without you, but mostly without you, at least thatâs been my experience.
I also miss working on new products. I miss communicating daily with our customers and our suppliers. Believe it or not, I even miss arriving on cold, snowy mornings to open our office in MA and make sure our parking lot was cleared and the entrance was salted and sanded.
âDespite 100,000+ Internet stations and millions of Internet radio users, Iâm the only person who does this, which is just fine by me.â
Did you ever have any negative interactions with customers? Peter: The vast majority of our customers were and are wonderful people. I have one customer who purchased a new Amico battery pack from Comoâs going out of business sale. He said the new battery was dead when he received it. The company was gone at that point so there wasnât anything we could do. He emails me every now and again out of the blue to remind me he got screwed. Iâm not sure what he expects me to do but if his angry emails make him feel better then Iâll be his whipping boy. Of course, this citizen didnât contribute to the GoFundMe campaign for the Frontier-Airable transition so he got his Internet radio and podcast service for free, but I guess in his mind that doesnât count for anything.
One of Como Audio’s Press invitations.
However, my scariest experience wasnât with a customer. There was a guy who, unbeknownst to us, posed as a journalist and crashed a couple of Comoâs annual press events in New York which I was always present for. The PR firm we hired got wise to him and banned him from all future events. He sent us an angry email saying he was going to have to âteach us a lessonâ. I remember those chilling words as if they were written yesterday. I had nightmares of him showing up at one of the conferences with an automatic weapon. Thank goodness, nothing ever happened, but it traumatized me for as long as we held those events.
Whatâs the latest regarding Como Audioâs Internet radio and podcast service?
Peter: I keep Como customers up to date via my Patreon service. If you want to read the latest news, tips, and receive tech support, please consider signing up.
Have you ever thought of starting your own company and designing your own audio products?
Peter:Absolutely! I have many audio product ideas swirling around in my brain. But one thing I learned at Como is that it takes a lot of money to run a company which is something Iâve been short of since being laid off. Como Audioâs CEO once told me- if youâre a billionaire and youâd rather be a millionaire, start your own audio company. What would be ideal is to be hired by an audio company to design products for them.
Whatâs the status of your petition on Change.org to promote Internet radio? Peter: As of this writing, I have 809 âsignaturesâ. Iâm shooting for 1,000, so I have quite a way to go yet. If youâve yet to sign, I hope you will (link at the bottom). Thereâs no cost and itâs easy to do. If youâve already signed, thank you, and please pass the word on.
With Alice and young Jason (and Mrs. Voorhees’ head) at Camp Blood.
Besides Internet radio, another of your interests is horror films?
Peter: Yes. I love horror movies. The Shining with Jack Nicholson is one of my all-time favorites, but I especially enjoy classic slasher films like Halloween, Black Christmas, My Bloody Valentine, Friday the 13th, etc. Iâve visited the actual camp where 80% of Friday the 13th was filmed and Iâve met several of the actors and the director. Iâm not into especially violent horror films like Terrifier. A good horror film shouldnât aim for shock value. I watch horror films to be scared not to toss my cookies.
Back to the 1970s: Meeting David (âJack Delroyâ) was so freakinâ COOL!
What horror films have you seen recently?
Peter: The last horror film I saw in an actual movie theater was Clown In A Cornfield, which I saw last month. I liked it but the very end was disappointing. The most recent horror film I saw on cable TV was Late Night With The Devil which blew my mind. I recently had the great pleasure of meeting the star of the film, David Dastmalchian, who couldnât have been nicer.
Me with the lovely Baylee Roberts (covered in fake blood) who played Carrie White.
Last month I also saw Carrie the Musical. Yes, they made a musical from the Steven King horror novel. It was actually really good. Bullies beware.
Youâve started your own YouTube channel. Howâs that going?
Peter: I was very reluctant to get into it at first because Iâm not a video or social media person and I donât look like George Clooney. My videos are starting to get a little bit of traction but I have a very long way to go. I think my videos take my subjects (mostly vintage audio) to a new level and at the same time, they let me have a little fun. I think it also demonstrates my passion for audio and brings out my personality and sense of humor. Please check them out (link at the end), and most importantly, subscribe and share them. Iâm also hoping my videos will help promote my service on Patreon as well as encourage BuyMeACoffee and PayPal donations so I can keep going.
How has the job hunt been going since Como Audio closed?
Peter: Sixteen months ago, I became my elderly fatherâs full-time caregiver and thatâs become my full-time job. Itâs a lot of work and very stressful. I have newfound respect for all caregivers. I donât have any siblings and all of his siblings have passed away, so Iâm alone on this journey. Iâve done a little (emphasis on âlittleâ) independent contract work and hope to do more, but itâs not something steady I can rely on.
If thereâs one thing you could ask people reading this, what would it be?
Peter: To please spread the word about my Patreon campaign, especially to Como Audio customers. Itâs very difficult trying to grow my base.
Any final thoughts? Peter:Iâm so grateful for my Patreon subscribers, and for that matter, my YouTube subscribers. They give me a reason to get up every day when I can find many reasons not to. Itâs a gift in my life. I hope everyone gets as much out of it as I do.
Trivia:I interned at legendary Boston rock station WBCN-FM and my first full time radio job was at WPRO-AM in Providence, R.I. I also worked at WHDH-AM in Boston, The Talk America Radio Network in Marlboro, MA, WBACH-FM/WQEZ-FM in Kennebunkport, Maine, The Peak in Norh Conway, NH, and WLNH-FM/WBHG-FM/WEMJ-AM in Gilford, New Hampshire, just to name a few. Some of those stations no longer exist or have changed format (not my fault!).
Last summer, I made a visit to New Jersey. During my short trip I had a very rare sightingâŚa Radio Shack store! Though the store was still in business, they were no longer a Radio Shack but had left all the signage up. More on Radio Shack later on, but it got me thinkingâŚBeing the retro geek that I am, I should devote an article on my blog about chains that are on life support and may not be around a few years from now.
Outside the expansive Kmart in Bridgehampton, NY a few weeks before it closed. Photo courtesy of Bernie Pizzitola.
The K Isnât Here to Stay
I filed the idea away in the back of my brain until last October when news hit that a Kmart in Bridgehampton, New York, one of only a few remaining Kmarts, was going to close forever after 25 years in business. There had been a Westwood, NJ location, but it closed the year before after 40 years. There are still a few Kmartâs in Guam and The Virgin Islands, but as far as the USA proper is concerned, there is only one lone remaining KmartâŚa very small one in Miami that was previously a garden center. Sadly, Kmart is as dead as disco.
Everything must go: Inside the last full-sized Kmart store. Photo courtesy of Bernie Pitzzola.
I worked at a RI Kmart in my late teens. I worked with the guy who announced the blue light specials for our store (“Attention Kmart shoppers…”). I also shopped there. Odd as it may seem, thereâs a special place in my heart for Kmart. I really wanted to get to the NY store before it closed, but it wouldâve been quite a trip and I couldnât take on the expense. So, I contacted an acquaintance who lived not far from the store and asked him to text me a few pictures of the inside and outside of the Kmart fore it closed. He probably thought I was nuts, but he sent me a few snaps anyway. Iâve posted more pics on my Instagram page, link at the end.
The first Kmart opened back in 1962 in Michigan, owned by the S.S. Kresge Company, which had a national chain of five and dime stores. Eventually, Kmart became the second largest retailer next to Sears until it was surpassed by Walmart (who else?) in 1990. At its height in 1994, Kmart had almost 2,500 stores globally.
Speaking of Sears, in 2004, Kmart bought Sears for a mere $11 billion with a âbâ. Over the ensuing years, thousands of under-performing Kmart and Sears stores were shuttered, and they went through at least two bankruptcies. How the mighty have fallen.
Renewed Commitment
Today, Kmart and Sears are both owned by TransformCo which seems to be in a serious state of denial based on what their website says: âKmart’s associates are facing the future with new energy and enthusiasm — and a renewed commitment to providing customers with compelling promotional values, great private brands and excellent service.â Huh? Earth to TransformCo- I think you need to update your website.
The Softer Side
No lines, no waiting:A defunct Sears Auto Center. Photo by Peter Skiera.
This conveniently leads me to the next chain on the retail endangered species listâŚSears. I grew up with a Sears store less than 10 minutes from our Pawtucket, RI apartment, as probably many did back in the day. Of course, we all remember the big Sears catalogs. I was mortified to discover that as of last July, there were only sevenremaining Sears stores in the USA, not counting the one in Puerto Rico. You might also recall the ubiquitous (and infamous) Sears Auto Centers, but the last one of those closed about two and a half years ago.
A Sears store in FL looking rather desolate. Photo by Peter Skiera.
This time around, I was able to get to an actual Sears store which was inside an actual shopping mall. It had been the first time I had been inside a Sears in a very long time. I felt as if I had gone back in time. I also felt like I was visiting a dear friend who had a terminal disease and probably wouldnât be around in a couple of years. Based on the lack of foot traffic I witnessed, maybe it wonât even be around that long. I found a few good clothing bargains and as a result of my purchase, I got a Sears plastic bag, sure to become a collectorâs item. I also helped myself to a free Sears ruler from the appliance department. See more pics on my Instagram page, link at the end.
No one around, just us mannequins: Inside an Orlando Sears. Photo by Peter Skiera.
Sears began in 1892 strictly as a mail order catalog business. In 1906, it became the first major retailer to hold an initial public offering. It opened its first store in 1925 in Chicago. By the 1980s, it had become Americaâs biggest retail chain. Like I said- how the mighty have fallen.
From Sears To Toys
I donât want to grow up: Toys âRâ Us inside a Macy’s. Photo by Peter Skiera.
Toys âRâ Us is different story. Somehow, they came back from the dead after closing all of their stores in 2018. George Romero himself would be proud. I was surprised to learn they had been around since 1948. Personally, I was a Child World child and had never been to a Toys âRâ Us in my life.
Hanging out with Geoffrey at Toys âRâ Us. Photo by Peter Skiera.
That said, I felt the need to pay Geoffrey a visit since I was only steps away from their store-within-a- store in Macy’s. WHP Global acquired Toys âRâ Us in 2021 and has been opening new stores ever since including in over 400 Macy’s stores. As of September 2023, there were 1,400 Toys “R” Us stores and e-commerce sites globally, including their flagship store at the American Dream mall in New Jersey.
Rent Control
A working Redbox kiosk not far from my home. Photo by Peter Skiera.
Although Redbox wasnât a retail chain, at one point it had over 42,000 self-serve DVD rental kiosks all across the country. As streaming became more popular and video rental stores began closing, Redbox quickly filled the gap and was very convenient with many kiosks stationed in front of supermarkets, convenience stores, and drug stores which received a commission from rentals. The owners, Chicken Soup for the Soul Entertainment (great name), stopped operating in July of last year after filing for bankruptcy the month prior.
Of course, I called the number! Itâs out of service. Photo by Peter Skiera.
I realize it will shock most of you to know that I was never much of a DVD person, and Iâve never used a Redbox, but I wanted to hit a few kiosks around me to see whether they were still working. Since I never paid any attention to them, I didn’t realize how many there were. I went to 3 or 4 of them near me late last year and every one was still working! No, I didn’t rent a DVD. I returned to one of the Redbox kiosks a day ago and it was completely shut down.
Update: A couple of months later, the Redbox kiosks I went back to check on were completely gone. They were probably hauled away and are stacked next to old phone booths to be scrapped.
Lunch Time
One of 100:Outside a Friendlyâs restaurant. Photo by Peter Skiera.
At this point I was pretty hungry, so the next stop on my blast from the past tour was Friendlyâs. The first Friendlyâs restaurant opened in 1935 in Springfield, MA. That first location only sold ice cream, but the second restaurant in 1940, also in MA, served food as well. The company changed hands several times through the decades, at one point being owned by Hershey. Itâs been owned by Amici Partners Group since 2021.
Me and my Friendlyâs chocolate Fribble. Photo by Peter Skiera.
With only 100 Friendly restaurants left, all in the eastern USA, down from 850 in 1996, I made it a point to get to one and enjoy a hot meal, and of course, one of their famous Fribble ice cream drinks. As with Sears, it had been forever since I had been in a Friendlyâs. It was like reuniting with an old friend and it felt good, not to mention how it tasted. Despite the photos on the menu, my Fribble cup didn’t sport a red “Fribble” logo on it. They’re probably afraid patrons will swipe them.
The Golden Cow
Outside a Newport Creamery in RI. Photo by Peter Skiera.
A similar but much lesser-known and considerably smaller restaurant chain was Newport Creamery. Having grown up in RI, I can tell you everyone knew this chain and I think just about everyone from RI had been to one. The company officially opened its first location in 1940 in Middletown, RI and all of its restaurants were based in RI, MA, and CT. It now operates just 10 locations, 8 of which are in RI, with the other 2 being in MA. The Jan Companies have owned Newport Creamery since 2001 after the previous owners filed for bankruptcy.
The Awful Awful on the dessert menu. Photo by Peter Skiera.
Awful Big, Awful Good
When I was in RI almost two years ago, I stopped at a Newport Creamery for some lunch, not knowing when or if I’d ever be at one again. Newport Creameryâs answer to Friendlyâs Fribble was the Awful Awful. I opted for a small hot fudge sundae after my meal because I didnât think I could finish an Awful Awful.
Awful Awfulâs are still made the way they were since day one…ice milk, flavored syrup, and ice cream. Newport Creamery used to have a promotion giving any patron a free Awful Awful if they could drink three in a row (âdrink three and the fourth is free!â). My father actually did that once and is happy to recount the story on demand, although I the quantity grows with each retelling. By the way, despite its name, the drink was always delicious, never awful, except perhaps for your waist line and blood sugar.
Back To The Shack
A former Radio Shack in Blairstown, NJ. Photo by Peter Skiera.
Circling back around to where I first started, Radio Shack is back. The Shack had a presence at the Consumer Electronics Show (CES) in Las Vegas last month and theyâre making a serious go at a comeback. I emailed the company last year about its rejuvenation and received this response: âWe are glad to inform you that we will soon be opening new locations in the US. Radio Shack closed operations in the US, and that is why at the moment there are no physical stores. We are coming back but at the time we will be available only as an online store. We appreciate you sticking with us and look forward to assist you as we continue to further expand.â Radio Shack retail stores have indeed started opening, though nothing close to me (yet), but I have looked over their website.
A screenshot from The Shack’s home page.
Disappointingly, the products look to be mostly low-end Chinese electronics wearing a Radio Shack badge. I imagine the tariffs will hit them hard.
An exceptionally rare 10 karat gold Radio Shack Leader’s Club diamond ring awarded to top performing employees. The âTCâ on the side stood for Tandy Corporation.
Radio Shack technically started in 1919 in Texas as a leather shoe parts supplier before it began selling radio parts in its first store on Brattle Street in Boston in 1921. At its peak, The Shack had over 8,000 stores worldwide. Radio Shack filed for bankruptcy in 2015 and again in 2017, at which time they closed all of their locations except in Latin America and the Caribbean. Those stores were owned by Unicomer Group which later acquired the global franchise in 2023. Under their leadership, they began opening new stores in the US late last year along with the new website. If my math is correct, there are now about 70 Radio Shacks spread across the USA.
What’s In Your Wallet?
For about 30 years starting in the 1960s, Radio Shack had a âBattery of the Month Club.â The card entitled the bearer to one free Radio Shack (âEnercellâ) battery per month. I’m a little embarrassed to admit I was a card-carrying member but I rarely used the card and I have no idea what happened to it. The new Radio Shack still sells batteries but alas, there’s no Club.
I signed up for The Shack’s email list last year and it still surprises me whenever I find an email from Radio Shack in my in box. I have to remind myself that The Shack is back. Iâm waiting for the day when they start mailing out catalogs again.
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Trivia (from Wikipedia): Radio Shack’s TRS-80 came out in 1977 and was one of the the first mass produced home computers. “By 1979, the TRS-80 had the largest selection of software in the microcomputer market. Until 1982, the TRS-80 was the bestselling PC line, outselling the AppleII by a factor of five according to one analysis.”
Trivia (from Wikipedia):“By 1894, the Sears catalog had grown to 322 pages, including many new items, such as sewing machines, bicycles, sporting goods, and automobiles. By 1895, the company was producing a 532-page catalog. Sales were over $400,000 ($12 million in 2021 dollars) in 1893 and over $750,000 ($20 million in 2021 dollars) two years later. By 1896, dolls, stoves, and groceries were added to the catalog.”
Trivia (from Wikipedia):“In December 2013, eight days before Christmas, Toys “R” Us announced their stores in the United States would stay open for 87 hours straight. The flagship store of the retailer in Times Square was open for 24 hours a day from December 1 to 24, to cater to tourists…This move also pushed the retailer to hire an additional 45,000 seasonal workers to cater to the demand of the extended store hours.”
Trivia (from Wikipedia): “At its peak in the early 2010s, [Redbox]…controlled more than half of the US DVD rental market.”
Trivia (from https://friendlysrestaurants.com/friend-z-personality-quiz/#r):Take Friendly’s Friend-Z free Personality Test on their website. According to my test results: “We know you love causing a little mischief. Always marching to the beat of your own drum, you donât mind when life throws something unexpected your way. You take it in stride. People are drawn to your lust for life and judgement-free demeanor. Let your hair down…”
Normally by this time, I’m wrapping up my deep dive into my âHave A Strange Christmasâ series in which I highlight strange Christmas records. I gave the series a rest this year. This month, I highlight a couple of holiday trips I embarked on a couple of weeks ago.
Hot In Cleveland
For the last several Decembers, Iâve tried to organize a visit to The House from A Christmas Story in Cleveland, OH. The house was used for some interior and exterior shots in the movie. But little things always seemed to get in the way, like getting laid off and having to sell my home. This year, I was determined to make the trip happen, even if just to get away for a couple of days for a change of scenery and get myself in the Christmas spirit.
This is the closest I’ve gotten to a woman’s leg in years.
Show Some Leg
The house from the 1983 movie A Christmas Story was purchased by super fan Brian Jones in 2004 on eBay of all places. Jones used the profits from his leg lamp company for the down payment. I never realized leg lamps were big business. A 50â tall leg lamp like the one used in the movie will set you back $300, and thatâs the sale price. Thatâs a lot of leg. Jones dropped an additional 6 figures to totally renovate the house to match the movie set. After the work was completed, he opened the house to public tours and rented the top floor for short stays. Jones also bought three other nearby properties and converted them into a museum, a gift shop, and rental suites in the Bumpus house next door.
Joshua Dickerson in front of his new house. Photo from housefromachristmasstory.com
Whatâs In A Name?
Two years ago, all of the properties were listed for sale, though the sale price was kept private. Long-time employee and CEO Joshua Dickerson took an equity stake in the company and became a Managing Partner, thus taking the properties off the market. Last year, Dickerson changed the popular tourist attractionâs name from âThe Christmas Story Houseâ to âThe House from A Christmas Storyâ. It doesnât roll off the tongue quite as well but it avoids licensing issues.
In front of The House from A Christmas Story. Photo by Peter Skiera.
The House from a Christmas Story almost wasnât. During my tour, our guide recounted an interesting story. Director Bob Clark discovered the house by accident after getting lost, but decided this had to be the house for the movie. The homeâs owner, however, wanted absolutely nothing to do with Hollywood and refused to cooperate. He quickly changed his mind when he was presented with a check for $20,000 to rent his house for a few weeks.
Hiding under the sink didn’t work so well.
There were some things I had to do during my tour. One was to sit underneath the kitchen sink just like Ralphieâs brother, Randy, did. Needless to say, he fit much better than I did.
Now that’s a major award!
Another must for me was to get a pic next to the soft glowing âelectric sexâ leg lamp in the front window.
I got a call that a kidâs tongue was frozen to a flag pole.
Since I was there specifically to write this article for my blog, I was given the very rare opportunity to sit in the firetruck garaged across the street next to the family car. Neither the truck, nor the car, are the same vehicles used in the film (the original firetruck resides in Canada), but I was still thrilled to sit behind the wheel. Iâm grateful to Aryanna, The House from A Christmas Storyâs General Manager, for arranging this for me.
Youâll poke your eye out: The Red Ryder BB gun. Photo by Peter Skiera.
As great as the house tour was, the museum was equally fascinating with many original costumes and props, including one of the original Red Ryder BB guns used in the movie. This is one of six. Several went unaccounted for after the movie was completed.
Randyâs winter coat. Photo by Peter Skiera.
Youâll remember poor Randy was unable to put his arms down because his mother had wrapped him in so many layers. In reality, they stuffed foam under his coat.
If youâre ever in Cleveland, be it in December or any time, A House from A Christmas Story should be at the top of your to-do list. Ho, Ho, Ho.
Castle Noel
The girl behind me clearly enjoyed pushing me. Photo by Castle Noel.
The day prior to my tour, I made my way to Castle Noel, billed as âAmericaâs largest year-round indoor Christmas entertainment attractionâ. Thatâs a long-winded way of saying itâs a museum of vintage Christmas propsâŚcostumes from Jim Careyâs The Grinch Who Stole Christmas, vintage window displays from Sax 5th Avenue and other New York department stores, the original Santa costume from Miracle on 34th Street, Will Ferrellâs Elf costume, and much, much more. The highlight was the opportunity to slide down the same red slide (âSanta Klaus Mountainâ) that Ralphie slid down in HigBeeâs Department Store in A Christmas Story.
Will Ferrellâs original costume from Elf on display at Castle Noel. Photo by Peter Skiera.The sh******s full.
To rewind a bit, the very first thing I saw on the Castle Noel tour, which I never expected, was the original Cousin Eddie 1973 Condor II RV used in the Christmas Vacation movie. The “rust” you see is painted on and looks very realistic. A little Hollywood magic. After Castle Noel purchased the RV, they actually drove it from California to its current location in Ohio.
On a personal note, if you ever need to contact Castle Noel as I did prior to my visit, don’t waste your time with their website contact form or email. They never responded to any of my messages. Why companies invite you to contact them and then ignore you is beyond me.
I took some time to visit a few other places…
The old Higbee’s Department store in Cleveland. Photo by Peter Skiera.
The HigBee Department Store building in Cleveland opened in 1860 and is still standing, but itâs now a casino.
How sweet it is: Inside b.a. Sweeties. Photo by Peter Skiera.
Before I left for the airport, I made a quick stop at b.a. Sweetie Candy Company. Itâs the largest candy âstoreâ in the USA. In addition to the usual suspects, there was a lot of candy and snacks I wasnât familiar with, including many unusual flavors of popcorn such as Dill Pickle and Beer Cheddar.
Chew on this: candy coated insects. Photo by Peter Skiera.
The award for the weirdest candy I saw there goes to the coated creepy crawlies like chocolate covered crickets, larva, and scorpions inside lollipops. Yum.
A Scut Farkus beer? Oh, fudge! Photo by Peter Skiera.
A couple of weeks before I made my trip, an enterprising local OH brewery released a limited-edition winter warmer beer named after the bully character in A Christmas Story, Scut Farkus (played by Zack Ward). Described as âa robust nut-brown ale with loads of cinnamon, ginger, and nutmegâ, I just had to sample this special libation in honor of the movie even though I consider myself a non-drinker. I posted a video on my YouTube channel capturing my priceless reaction after taking a a few sips (link at the end).
Christmas Vacation
The other equally cool trip I took last month was much closer to homeâŚ3 ½ hours northeast in Jacksonville, FL. The event was a screening of National Lampoonâs Christmas Vacation in celebration of the classic filmâs 35th Anniversary. Besides getting to see it on a big screen in a movie theater, none other than Clark W. Griswold himself went on stage after the movie to answer questions from the audience and conduct a meet and greet for a limited number of lucky fans.
Rushâs Way is under construction. Photo by Peter Skiera.
Before I cover the main event, I want to mention a few interesting things I encountered along my journey. Being a former radio broadcaster, I was surprised to come across a section of road dedicated to the late conservative talk show host Rush Limbaugh. Early on in my radio career, I often ran the console when the AM station I worked for aired Rushâs national radio show. I even have an autographed photo of him that one of my co-workers got for me. He was controversial to say the least, and I disagreed with much of what he said, but he was smart, funny, and he articulated his arguments very well. If you wanted to educate yourself on what the other side was thinking, he was one of the best to learn from. Limbaugh died in February of 2021 from lung cancer.
The mind bending Beastie Boys 3D mural. Photo by Peter Skiera.
Upon arrival in Jacksonville, one sight I definitely had to visit was a large 3D painted mural of the Beastie Boys. It wasnât easy to get to because everything around it was being torn up and pedestrians werenât allowed for safety reasons. Taking my life into my own hands, I carefully navigated my way around the dirt and debris. The mural was fenced off so I did the best I could to get off a decent picture without calling attention to myself and getting tossed out.
The expansive, hand-painted mural was completed in March of 2018 on National 3D Day (yes, there is such a thing) and was certified by Guinness World Records as the largest 3D painted mural, measuring 1,900 square feet. Itâs situated in the Brooklyn neighborhood of Jacksonville, FL. Perhaps thatâs why the artist, Jason Tetlak, titled it after one of the groupâs songs, âNo Sleep Till Brooklynâ. Unfortunately for me, I didnât have a set of 3D glasses handy to see it as it was intended.
Drip, drip, drip: The vintage Maxwell House sign. Photo by Peter Skiera.
Being the all-things vintage geek that I am, the other must see on my list was the Maxwell House âGood to the last dropâ sign at the Maxwell House factory building in downtown Jacksonville. I couldnât get a shot of it at night when itâs most impressive, so a daylight shot had to suffice. The 100-year-old, 390,000 square foot factory sits on private property and there were numerous security vehicles around, but I managed to capture the above image. I also got a generous whiff of delicious smelling roasted coffee that surrounded the building.
The 95-foot Maxwell House sign dates back to 1955 and has the distinction of being the last Maxwell House sign like it in the country. It was scheduled to be upgraded from neon to LED but I donât know for certain if that was ever done.
Inside the impressive Florida theater before the show. Photo by Peter Skiera.
After a quick meal (very quick), I departed my lovely 2-star motel and headed on over to the beautiful, historic Florida theater. The theater opened back in 1927 and features grand staircases, marble, ironwork, and tiling. They donât make them like they used to.
Iâve seen the Christmas Vacation film many times on television, but experiencing it in a theater with almost 2,000 other movie goers was a real treat. When the movie ended, out came Chevy Chase, followed by his wife, Jayni Luke, and the moderator, to a standing ovation.
Chevy Chase gingerly making his way on stage. Photo by Peter Skiera.
Chase turned 81 two months ago and it showed. During the Q&A, his wife (theyâve been married over 40 years) had to remind him of things and fill-in some details, but she did so very lovingly. She also explained that the night before, Chase had fallen and hit his eye on the arm of their sofa. They had been in the Emergency Room until 2am that morning and his eye had only recently opened up. Despite this, he was in great spirits, recounting some funny stories over the course of his television and movie career while answering questions from the audience that were submitted in advance.
From left to right: The moderator, Jayni Luke Chase, and Chevy Chase. BTW, those are bottles of water, not alcohol. Photo by Peter Skiera.
The highlight of the Q&A for me was at the very end when the host asked Chase to recite the angry rant from Christmas Vacation where his character, Clark Griswold, called his boss about 25 consecutive nasty names. Chase revealed that he was the one who wrote the tirade, and that the rest of the cast were holding signs each containing a couple of words from the rant. Of course, you donât see that part in the film. This allowed the rant to be filmed in one take because he said there was no way he could’ve memorize all of the words. On stage he read the rant from a slip of paper and when he finished, the audience erupted in loud applause and cheers.
Me (dressed like Clark) and Chevy Chase (and his black eye). Photo by Standing Ovations Live.
I was one of the fortunate few who got to meet Chase backstage and get a photo with him. The meeting only lasted a few seconds, but it was a once-in-a-lifetime experience Iâll never forget. You can see his black eye in the photo. The napkin under his hand is because he was coughing a lot. I went to the effort of trying to dress like Clark Griswold right down to the identical tie. I thanked Chevy for staying late to meet with some of his fans when Iâm sure he wouldâve preferred being in bed resting from his fall only 24 hours earlier.
My Chevy Chase signed mini movie poster.
This is probably the most exciting Christmas Iâve had since I first sat on Santaâs lap. I donât get out much. I hope you enjoyed reading about my adventures.
By the way, in case you missed it, last year for this blog I wrote an extensively researched history of the Christmas Vacation movie soundtrack and its highly questionable authenticity, link at the end.
Trivia (from cinemablend.com):âWhile in school at Bard College, Chase was classmates with Walter Becker and Donald Fagan. The three of them often picked up gigs together and formed a short-lived band called The Leather Canary. Fagan and Becker would go on to form the legendary Steely Dan, albeit without Chase.â
Trivia (from cinemablend.com):âChaseâs family in American goes as far back as the Mayflower. John Howland and William Brewster are both ancestors of his and both arrived at Plymouth Rock with the rest of the Mayflower passengers in 1620.â
Trivia: Chevy Chase was born Cornelius Crane Chase.His grandmother nicknamed him Chevy.
A House from A Christmas Story, Castle Noel, and b.a. Sweetie’s didn’t subsidize any portion of my trip. I was responsible for all expenses. If you enjoyed this article, please consider making a contribution to BuyMeACoffee orPayPalto help support my blog and vlog.
I originally posted this article on the Como Audio blog (which no longer exists) 2 years ago. In honor of the cassette tapeâs Birthday, Iâve updated it and present it here for the first time on my own blog.
In 1964, sixty years ago last month, the same year The Beatles invaded America, Philips introduced the US to the recordable cassette tape (trademarked under the name âCompact Cassetteâ). Though the new plastic fantastic invention was intended for dictation, two years later, prerecorded music tapes hit the market. For the music enthusiast, the cassetteâs size proved much more convenient than 7â diameter reel-to-reel tapes, 12â records, and bulky 8 tracks, with the ability to easily slip a tape in oneâs shirt or pant pocket. Reel to reel music tapes were harder to source and the playback machines were expensive, heavy, and occupied considerably more real estate. Records had been the dominant format, and despite the cassetteâs obvious advantages, according to vintagecassettes.com, it took a solid twenty years until cassettes finally outsold their vinyl counterparts.
Illustration from a Sony insert card.
As advanced as cassettes were for the time, they werenât without their flaws. Almost every cassette owner experienced the tape spooling inside their tape deck or portable player. If you were fortunate enough to catch it in time you could extract the tape and wind it back into the cassette housing by sticking a pencil in one of the reel holes and rotating it. The nightmare scenario was the tape getting mangled around the pinch roller and/or capstan, âeatingâ the tape, and effectively relegating the cassette to the dust bin.
Tape decks needed attention as well. They had to be cleaned and demagnetized regularly to maintain good performance, and sometimes required head re-alignment and bias adjustment. Cassette owners also had to be careful to keep their tapes away from magnets which could erase tapes (never a concern with records or CDs).
Press to play:The revolutionary Advent Model 201 home cassette deck (sans its tinted dust cover). Photo by Peter Skiera.
One consumer electronics product to give the fledgling cassette format a shot in the arm was the Model 200 from 1971 which was made in Massachusetts by Advent Corp. I read this model cost $260. If true, that would be over $2,000 today after adjusting for inflation! Advent was founded in Cambridge in 1967 by Henry Kloss and built high-quality home loudspeakers. Advent was also the first company to produce a projection television long before cable or home theater ever became part of our lexicon. But I digress.
From 200 to 201
The 200, which used an unreliable Nakamichi transport, was replaced by the Model 201 which used an industrial-strength, commercial-grade 3M Wollensak transport. It had an analog tape counter, a generously-sized analog VU meter which could be switched between channels or combined to measure both channels, a single rewind/fast forward lever, a removable dust cover, and came housed in real a wood case. These were not the first consumer home tape decks, but the Advent models were the very first high-fidelity home decks to include patented Dolby B noise reduction for recording and playback (reducing tape hiss by 9dB) and CrO2 (chrome) tape support.
The importance of the Model 201 to the evolution of recorded music cannot be overstated. From the Model 201âs original user manual: ââŚthe 201 incorporates more than the usual number of user-accessible adjustments to permit the serious recordist to achieve the recording quality, that, just a short time ago, was thought possible only with the best and most expensive open reel recorder.â
Together again:Peter Skiera (left) and Bruce Gregory at Como Audio in Boston in 2019. Photo by Ben Merberg.
My friend and former long-time colleague, Bruce Gregory, was a young engineer at Advent Corp. in the 1970âs and was asked by Henry Kloss to handle the electronic design of the Model 201. I spoke with Gregory by phone and asked him about that landmark project.
Peter: Advent was your first major engineering gig?
Bruce: âYeah. They hired me because they went in production with the Model 100 Dolby [Noise Reduction Unit], then they [found] out [it didnât] work. So, they hired me to see if I could straighten it out, which I did. Then we did the [Model] 101 Dolby which [was] either record or playback but not both. Ray Dolby did most of that and I did some of it. I probably started the [Model 201] in late 1970. It took nine months before production â
Peter: What can you tell me about the design of the Model 201? Was it difficult?
Bruce: âWell, okay, for me, it was hard. The electronicsâŚI had never designed a low-noise pre-amp before. So, you know, I went to my transistor theory book [from] college and read through it until I found out the tape head impedance [was] a real factor and you [could] pick some transistors that [worked] with that better than othersâŚpick the right transistor to get low noise. When we were done, it was substantially better than the electronics in the RevoxâŚIt had a regulated power supply in it so line voltage wouldnât affect its performance. It had adjustments on the back for biasâŚtrim pots for regular tape and chromium tape, so if you wanted to you could adjust your own machine to be super flat. The heads came from Michigan Magnetics who [made] all the heads on, like, your Ampex half inch tape. We had a really good quality tape head. The wow and flutter [were] pretty good. Henry [Kloss] did a kind of unusual board layout. When you [went] from record to play, you [had] to switch about a half a dozen-things. So, we put the switches all over the board and Henry made up this, like, spider steel thing that tied them all together, so when you moved the lever on the top it moved all the switches together. And they had little nylon bushings that it ran in. That was kind of unusual.â
A fashionable Bruce Gregory during his Advent days in the 1970âs. Note the tie and polyester sports jacket. Photo courtesy of Gregory.
Peter: In those days, the cassette wasnât really being taken seriously for music until the Model 201. Did Henry Kloss ever explain why he decided to make a hi-fi tape deck?
Bruce: âHenry felt you could get open-reel performance on a cassette deck. And our standard demonstration [was], weâd go somewhere and record a song from the record onto the cassette deck and then weâd play them back synched up and nobody could tell which was the record and which was the cassette. It was really good. It was head and shoulders above everything else out there. The Harman Kardon and the Fisher [decks] werenât very good.â
Rare Advent music tapes from the 1970s. Photo by Peter Skiera.
Peter: Advent was the first to make and sell their own blank and pre-recorded chromium dioxide cassette tapes. How did that work?
Bruce: âThe cassette tape [came] on, like 7â reels, which is thousands of feet cassette tape, itâs really, really thin. So, the operator would put in an empty cassette, splice the leader to the big reel, record it, and then at the end [he] would splice the leader on the other end…The classical music, Andy [Kotsatos] and I recorded a lot of thatâŚWe did some live recording at Sanders Theater and at Brandeis TheaterâŚwe recorded [the Boston Camerata] in the Museum of Fine Arts so it would sound like it was in a castle. We had one tape of Bob Wier from the Grateful Dead…Anyhow, Henry dealt with, I think, Dupont directly on the tape. I mean, chromium tape was pretty new. Nobody else was really doing anything.â
The Bridge, founded by Tom DeVesto (center with the long hair), was one of Adventâs most successful dealers. Photo courtesy of DeVesto.
It Started With Video Tape
According to Como Audioâs CEO, Tom DeVesto, who founded what would become one of Adventâs most successful dealers, The Bridge in North Carolina, and eventually went on to become Adventâs International Sales Manager, Adventâs cassettes originally used video tape. From a vintage Advent advert in Stereo Review magazine: âAlthough DuPontâs Crolyn tape was being used extensively in video recording applications, and justifying its advance press notices, no one had made the leap to marketing it for audio purposes for home use. We decided to do so because we felt that Crolyn was necessary for the very best in potential cassette performance…and better overall high frequency performance than any other tape we know of.â *
My amazing Nakamichi RX-303 with UDAR compartment. Photo by Peter Skiera.
As time went on, the record/playback devices became more sophisticated, offering features like Dolby C, Dolby HX Pro, Dolby S, auto reverse, and multiple motors. One of the better-known manufacturers was Nakamichi. Their top-of-the-line 1000 ZXL sold for almost $4,000 and that was forty years ago! âNakâ as they were affectionately referred to by audiophiles, brought a number of innovations to the table. They were the first to employ three dedicated heads, one each for erasing, recording, and playback. Their transports were so accurate they made the cassetteâs pressure pad unnecessary and actually lifted it out of the way. Their head-turning UDAR (Uni-Directional Auto Reverse), as used in three models, physically pushed the cassette out and flipped it around to play the other side, thereby saving the listener a trip out of his chair (and eliminating concerns over alignment issues from a reversing playback head).
Train Your Dragon
Nakamichiâs legendary Dragon cassette deck brought high performance (very low wow and flutter and 20Hz-20kHz frequency response) and a super-sexy style to the consumer tape deck (along with a hefty price tag). I vividly remember drooling over a Dragon at a Tweeter Etc. store in R.I., knowing I would never be able to afford one. One day I was in the store, my heart sunk as a salesman gave a deal on their demonstration model to a woman who was buying it as a present for her boyfriend. What a gift, and what a girlfriend! I bought a used one on eBay (a Dragon, not a girlfriend) about two decades later and still own it today. Based on my success rate, a girlfriend never wouldâve lasted that long.
Load âem up: My Pioneer CT-M66R âMulti-playâ tape deck changer with motorized carriage. Photo by Peter Skiera.
Jukebox
In addition to the Nakamichi Dragon, I also own a Pioneer CT-M66R circa 1990, a kind of cassette jukebox accepting up to six tapes that can be played in order or randomly shuffled. Not to be out done, Mitsubishiâs DT-156/157/160 auto changing models held up to 7 tapes. Sony came out with their TC-C05 in 1992 which housed an internal carousel that accepted up to five cassettes.
Stack the deck:Denon’s Cassematic.
It might surprise you to learn that the cassette jukebox wasnât an invention of the 1990s. The very first consumer multi-play cassette machine actually came out in 1970. Denonâs âCassematic 12â supported up to twelve tapes, was housed in a wood cabinet, and sported prominent mechanical push button controls typical of the 70âs.
Round and round she goes: The PanasonicRS-296.
The mother of all multi-cassette players, however, was the Panasonic RS-296 from 1972 which held a whopping twenty cassette tapes in its sleek, rotating aluminum carousel. Itâs a rare treat indeed to see one of these babies in action. The push buttons on the right were used to directly select the cassette you wanted to listen to or to program the playback in a specific order. Once selected, the tape would disappear below the carousel to play and then pop back up again when it was finished playing or was stopped and ejected.
The $500 Teac W-1200 in black. Photo from Teacusa.com
You can still find decent home cassette decks being manufactured today by Teac and Tascam, but most others are inexpensive, low-end affairs. Since Dolby noise reduction is no longer available for consumer decks, The Teac W-1200 uses its own noise reduction akin to Dolby B, includes a wireless remote control, has a two year warranty, and is available in black or silver.
The home tape deck gave rise to the âmix tapeâ. This was a homemade compilation of the listenerâs favorite songs culled from other tapes and records. When you got tired of the songs, you simply recorded a new mix on top of the previous set, and presto, you had yourself a whole new playlist. You could trade your tapes with friends and hear what songs they were listening to. These were custom playlists well before playlists were a thing.
Walk this way: My near mint condition Sony TPS-L2 Walkman with the box, included headphones, and still sealed Sony batteries. Photo by Peter Skiera.
Anywhere, Anytime
Another huge boost for the cassetteâs public acceptance was the legendary Sony Walkman, introduced in the US in 1980. With the Walkman, which was powered by a couple of standard AA batteries, cassettes were no longer limited to home or studio use, but could now be enjoyed while traveling, jogging, sunning at the beach, riding the bus, lying on the sofa, or rollerblading (it was a thing back then)âŚjust about anywhere you wanted to take your music. Over the course of three decades, Sony sold about 200 million Walkmans (Walkmen?) worldwide according to Wikipedia. Today, first generation Walkmans sell on eBay anywhere from several hundred dollars to upwards of $3,000! Nostalgia is fun but expensive.
Orange you glad they made this? Photo from wearerewind.com
If thatâs too pricey for you, take heart. There are several companies making portable tape players today, with We Are Rewind and FiiO being the best known.
Knobs, jacks, and buttons, oh my! FiiOâs R13. Photo from FiiOâs Facebook page.
Tape under glass: Ninmlabâs âItâs Realâ turns the cassette player into a retro work of art. Photo from ninmlab.com
New tape players arenât just for older folks looking to experience the nostalgia of the past. Iâve read that young people like that portable cassette players donât use their phoneâs battery power as is the case when they play music from their phone, and that they enjoy the tactile sensation of pressing buttons and handling tapes. In the case of We Are Rewind, its player has the added benefit of being able to stream its audio to Bluetooth headphones, earbuds, or speakers. The colors and industrial designs of these players are also very appealing.
On the downside, a lot of reviews complain about the reliability of these players. From a sound stand point, thereâs a considerable amount of playback hiss since there’s no noise reduction. Thereâs also no tape counter which can make finding that particular song you want a hear little harder. If youâre in the market for a portable cassette player and want the best sound, you might have a better experience going with a used vintage player even if it costs a little more and you have to buy batteries for it.
Take it outside: My massive Clairtone boombox. Photo by Peter Skiera.
Boxing The Boom
In the early 1980âs, the boombox took cassette tape portability to the extreme. As time went on, boomboxes grew bigger, louder, and heavier. With lighted VU meters, dual cassette decks for dubbing, multiple input jacks (including dedicated phono and microphone inputs), tone controls, Dolby noise reduction, AM/FM tuner (some models included shortwave!), and dedicated tweeters and woofers, the boombox became a full-fledged, shoulder-mounted, hi-fi stereo system. The Conion C-100F, for instance, was a monstrous, 3-way system that took ten D cell batteries! You canât truly appreciate the sheer scale of this model without being in its presence. It even had a very loud alarm that, when set, would activate if moved. I own the Canadian version which was branded under the Clairtone name.
GPOâs Brooklyn boombox. Photo from GPOâs Instagram page.
A few new boombox tape players are still available today like the âBrooklynâ by GPO Retro for $260, but they pale in comparison to their predecessors.
Back then, music formats had a greater chance of success if they could be enjoyed in vehicles. Auto makers began including radios with tape playback in their vehicles allowing cassettes to get out of our dreams and into our cars. There was also a plethora of aftermarket head units. Philips was the first to come out with a car radio/cassette combo back in 1968.
A curated collection of homemade Grateful Dead recordings.
Dead Tapes
One unique activity that stemmed directly from portable cassette recorders was the âTapersâ Sectionâ. This was a designated area at Grateful Dead concerts where fans were actually allowed to bring in recording equipment and record the live performance. While almost all other bands prohibited recording of their live concerts, The Dead welcomed it, likely making them the most recorded band in the world. Fans would trade their tapes with fellow tapers. Many âDeadheadsâ have since digitized their recordings and posted them on the web. Archive.org has nearly 15,000 live âDeadâ recordings.
Listen To A Book
Tapes weren’t just for music. Over about a ten-year span, from the mid-1980âs to mid-1990âs, publishers released books on tape, with many read by the authors. At its peak, the audio book market swelled to $1.5 billion annually according to Wikipedia. âReadersâ could hear a book on tape when it wasn’t practical to actually read one, such as in the car, riding public transportation, jogging, cooking, or doing housework. They were also embraced by the blind and those with reading disabilities. Audio books could be purchased at traditional bookstores and music stores, and were lent out by public libraries. Even the Book-of-the-Month Club and Time-Life got in on the act. Like used music tapes, used audio books can be found at thrift stores and on the web. According to an Audio Publishers Association survey, audio books remain very popular with sales up 9% last year at $2 billion. The survey identified history/biography/memoir as the most popular genres.
The big, beautiful Panasonic RS-DC10 player/recorder with piano gloss solid wood end panels.
DCC
I’m not done with the history lesson. In 1992, Philips took the cassette tape to the next level with a new format called DCC (Digital Compact Cassette), not to be confused with Sonyâs Digital Audio Tape (DAT). Donât feel bad if you donât remember it or never heard of it. It all but vanished a mere four years later. DCC touted better sound quality since the tapes stored the music digitally like CDs and were 18- bit vs. CDâs 16-bit. The hardware was backward compatible with analog tapes for playback only, not for recording- a rather significant drawback. Tapes were loaded into a slide-out tray, not a pop open door like analog tape decks. Another cool feature lacking from its analog cousin was meta dataâŚthe playback machineâs display could show the artist, track number, and song information embedded in the DCCâs auxiliary track of the playing tape, something many CDs didnât do at the time.
Smooth operator: My Pioneer CT-05D connected to my Musica. Photo by Peter Skiera.
The DCC was not the tape deckâs last gasp, however. In 1996, as the cassette was preparing to meet its maker, Pioneer brought out several new models featuring a 20-bit digital-to-analog and analog-to-digital converter which digitized and processed the cassetteâs analog audio and then converted the digital signal back to analog for superior sound. These decks also had Pioneerâs proprietary Digital Noise Reduction which virtually eliminated all tape hiss. Finally, Pioneer included what it called Digital FLEX which measured the tapeâs frequency response and automatically âfilled inâ any missing high frequencies. With Dolby C engaged, these Pioneer decks could achieve a signal-to-noise ratio of 90dB, approaching CD-quality. Unlike the DCC format, Pioneerâs new technology was designed to work with standard cassette tapes. I have a gently used Pioneer Elite CT-05D I bought on eBay which has the same suite of digital features. The Digital Noise Reduction feature is quite remarkable. I well remember selling these Pioneer decks when I was the Assistant Manager at Cambridge SoundWorks in Portland, ME. We did not sell many, but kudos to Pioneer for having dug deep into their bag of tricks to try to rescue the cassette deck. Unfortunately, it was too late for the tape.
Rinse and repeat:My Allsop cassette deck cleaning kit. Photo by Peter Skiera.
In the musical words of George Harrison, all things must pass. When the compact disc burst onto the scene in the early 1980âs in all its shiny, futuristic glory, it was the nail in the cassetteâs coffin, metaphorically speaking. Analog tapes had a warmer sound compared to the CDâs colder, digital sound, and made recording easy. But letâs face the inconvenient truth- the cassette didnât stand a ghost of a chance against the CD. By 2003, the cassette tape had all but vanished from the major music labelsâ catalogs.
My Billie Eilish âWhen We All Fall Asleep, Where Do We Go?â cassette (in limited edition transparent red plastic) and Madonnaâs âMadame Xâ. Photo by Peter Skiera.
Like records, the cassette tape has been making a comeback of late, albeit on a considerably smaller scale. As the song goes, everything old is new again, or as the saying goes, the more things change, the more they stay the same. Last year in the US, 436,400 cassette tapes were sold. Thereâs even a Cassette Store Day (CSD), though it has not enjoyed nearly the same traction in the USA as Record Store Day has.
Top 10 List
Naturally, you can source used tapes on eBay, at your local thrift store, and on-line from web shops like 3rd floortapes.com, tapeheadcity.com, and Etsy.com, but some chains like Urban Outfitters and Newbury Comics sell new cassette titles by artists such as Dua Lipa, Harry Styles, and Taylor Swift. You will even find cassettes at Walmart.com and Amazon.
Here are the top 10 tape titles from last year according to stereogum.com ranked by highest to lowest sales:
1. Various Artists â Guardians Of The Galaxy, Vol. 1: Awesome Mix Vol. 1 (18,000 copies) 2. Taylor Swift â 1989 (Taylorâs Version) (17,500) 3. Various Artists â Guardians Of The Galaxy, Vol. 2: Awesome Mix Vol. 2 (16,000) 4. Various Artists â Guardians Of The Galaxy, Vol. 3: Awesome Mix Vol. 3 (13,000) 5. Taylor Swift â Speak Now (Taylorâs Version) (11,500) 6. Nirvana â Bleach (8,000) 7. Metallica â 72 Seasons (7,500) 8. Various Artists â Guardians Of The Galaxy: Cosmic Mix, Vol. 1 (6,000) 9. Various Artists â Barbie: The Album (5,500) 10 Phoebe Bridgers â Punisher (5,500)
In a race to the bottom, like new tape decks, new cassette titles are not encoded with Dolby noise reduction because the Dolby chip set was discontinued years ago. Call me old school, but new cassette releases without Dolby is like Las Vegas without gambling.
Be that as it may, tapes are like musical comfort food, and a tape collection will occupy less space than records. They also require less cash, as most new titles retail for much less than new vinyl records. Thatâs because cassettes are inexpensive to make, even in short runs, making them a âreelâ deal. Used tapes, however, are the ultimate bargain. I bought a half dozen used music tapes at a local thrift store for $1 apiece (and they have Dolby NR).
Bid Early And Often
Of course, you can spend much more if you wish. How about a tape of Aerosmithâs âJust Push Playâ for a mere $50,000? Too expensive? Thereâs a cassette of Led Zeppelinâs âPhysical Graffiti â going for a cool $2,800. If youâve got a box of old tapes in your attic or basement, you might want to go through them before you drop them off at the Salvation Army.
Sourcing blank audio cassettes for recording is a different story. Maxellâs blank chrome and metal tapes were highly regarded back in the day. Who could forget the iconic black and white Maxell advert of the cool dude in dark sunglasses holding on for dear life in his high arm chair while getting blown away along with his martini (complete with flying olive) by his JBL loudspeakers? You can still find Maxellâs Type I blank cassettes for sale, but their Chrome and Metal tape formulations have been out of production for some time and are quite expensive today on eBay.
Making tape great again.Photo from NAC’s Instagram page.
A New Take On Tapes
National Audio Company is one of only a handful of US companies that still make cassettes and is the last remaining company in the US to manufacture its own tape. The family-owned, 135,000 square foot factory is located in Springfield, MO and has been in business for 55 years. They exhausted their supply of consumer-grade audio tape about three years ago but developed a new Type 1 formulation which they say is âdesigned specifically for maximum performance when recording on real-time consumer cassette decks.â They also developed a new Type II formulation which uses cobalt instead of Chromium Dioxide, yet uses the same bias and equalization as Chrome. The company claims their new recipe results in better frequency response and improved bass.
Music tape duplication accounts for most of NACâs business. They made the best-selling Guardian of The Galaxy tapes. NAC has done cassette projects for Pearl Jam and the Smashing Pumpkins and they have partnered with Disney, Sony, Universal, and several independent music labels.
I interviewed NACâs President, Steve Stepp, for this original article but that information is outdated so Iâve removed it. I asked Stepp a new set of questions for this updated article but he refused to respond in writing. I guess he wanted me to buy one of his tapes and tape the interview.
My cassette tape coffee table by Taybles.com. Photo by Peter Skiera.
Why is a 60 year old music format popular again? Perhaps itâs nostalgia. Perhaps itâs because theyâre cheap. Perhaps because, unlike playing a digital music file, they provide the full sensory experienceâŚripping apart the cellophane like unwrapping a Christmas gift, popping open the plastic case, unfolding and reading the artwork insert, and finally, grasping the tape and inserting it in the player, and pressing the Play button. See me. Feel me. Touch me. Heal me. Or, perhaps itâs simply because theyâre analog. After all, our ears are analog. We weren’t born with a DAC in our brain. Whatever the reason, know that cassette tapes completely altered the music landscape, in a good way, and theyâre still relevant for many music lovers, yours included. Long live analog.
*Dobly is a trademark of Dolby Laboratories. Crolyn is a trademark of DuPont.
Trivia (from to Wikipedia): The 2010 Lexus SC430 was the last domestic car to include an in-dash radio/cassette combo player as standard equipment.
Trivia:A C60 cassette (30 minutes each side) contains a total of 279 feet of audio tape.
Trivia:According to bands.co.uk, if every cassette sold from day one until today were placed end-to-end, they would stretch from the earth to the moon and back again four times. Houston, we have a resurgence.
Trivia:In a previous life,Bruce Gregory sold and repaired marine electronics, and was one of the last to be on and off the Andrea Gail before she was lost at sea with all hands during the perfect storm of 1991.
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In honor of Halloween, my favorite âholidayâ of the year after Christmas, I present an exclusive interview with composer John Massari. Massari is best known for his score to the 1988 cult classic Killer Klowns From Outer Space, but heâs also written and performed music for The Wizard of Speed and Time, The Cell 2, Retro Puppet Master, and the theme to The Ray Bradbury Theater. Heâs worked with HBO, MGM, Disney, and Sony Pictures and owns his own sound and music production company, Cinematic SteamPunk.
Thatâs me on the right in my âKiller Klownsâ shirt with the stars of the movie.The actor to my left is laughing because I just said, “Oh, I’m getting a massage!”
Although Iâve never met Massari, a few months back I had the pleasure of meeting some of the people involved with Killer Klowns From Outer Space including the Chiodo brothers who conceived of and wrote the film and designed the Klown masks. I also met the men who played the Klowns in the film along with the three main stars! Now, on with the interviewâŚ
My rare first CD release of the KKFOS soundtrack on Percepto Records signed by Massari and the Chiodo brothers. WaxWork records reissued the CD a few years ago but itâs out of print.
Peter: Your audition for the Killer Klowns composer job was more like a contest, wasnât it?
John: “It was indeed a unique audition process. The Chiodo brothers held auditions where multiple composers submitted their interpretations of what the music for Killer Klowns should sound like. It was competitive, for sure. I fell in love with the film when I saw that gorgeous spaceship in the forest. I’m grateful that my particular musical interpretation resonated with them.”
Peter: I read that the Chiodo brothers asked you to approach the music for the film differentlyâŚto use different instruments than you would typically use for certain types of music. Did that take you out of your comfort zone?
John: “It was such a relief NOT to emulate another composer’s horror score. They needed me to distinguish my music for this film. The Chiodo brothers wanted to achieve a particular sound, which involved using unconventional instruments to create a unique atmosphere. I was free to explore new creative avenues, resulting in a score that defined the film’s quirky and otherworldly tone.”
Peter: The Chiodo brothers were pleased you took their film and the music seriously. Why did classical music heavily influence your compositions, especially considering the kind of film it was and that a punk rock band recorded the title track?
John: “Classical music has always been a profound source of inspiration for me, and I felt that incorporating classical elements into the score added depth, richness, and, most importantly, contrast to the overall sound. While the title track by the punk rock band was a defining aspect of the film’s fun identity, I wanted to approach the score with a level of seriousness, that extra something that creatively works with the campiness. The juxtaposition of classical influences with the film’s crazyness (sic) creates a unique experience for the audience.”
Peter: What was the most challenging aspect of developing the soundtrack besides the low budget and very short time frame?
John: “My first step was composing all the thematic material. I originally wrote the piece known as âThe Killer Klown Marchâ for my band in high school. My band mates thought it sounded too Jazzy, but it worked for the film. Then one to programmed totally original sounds on my synthesizers. One of the most challenging aspects of developing the original soundtrack was balancing the film’s playful and comedic [side] with its darker, more sinister undertones.â
Peter: You’ve recounted some great âKlownâ stories for liner notes, personal appearances, and other interviews, but is there anything about the Killer Klowns soundtrack or the movie you’re aware of that few if any people know about?
John: “Besides me composing âThe Killer Klown Marchâ when I was a teenager, there is this story: âAs John Massari returned the music master tapes to the studio, people in the accounting and legal departments completely dismissed Killer Klowns as âA complete failure that will die a quick death.â Massari responded: “Well… YOU don’t get it! There are people who will LOVE this movie.â Then, this gem: ‘John Massari‘s music for the entrance of Klownzilla was originally composed a year earlier for the Friday the 13th Part VI: Jason Lives movie trailer. Massari’s music for that trailer was rejected in favor of a more cliche musical approach.â Lastly, The Chiodo Bros despised all the scores from 80s horror. So, I had the rare joy of creating my score. To this day, I am still expanding the score. Follow me for more updates.â
Peter: Are you surprised at the huge following Killer Klowns has amassed? Why do you think the movie continues to be so popular? Itâs supposedly the most requested movie on Svengoolie.
John: âI believed in this movie from the very beginning. It was just a matter of time. We have the fans to thank for all of this popularity. There is a subtext of creativity that resonates with audiences. Hence, it rises from the ashes like the majestic Phoenix! LOLâ
My KKFOS âReimaginedâ CD signed by Massari and the Chiodo brothers.
Peter: Why did you decide to release a “reimagined” Killer Klowns soundtrack in 2018?
John: “The decision to release a ‘reimagined’ Killer Klowns soundtrack stemmed from a desire to revisit and revitalize the music for a new generation of fans with a real orchestra. Since the score is based on classical music, we can approach the music with fresh eyes and ears.”
Peter: You’ve accomplished much in your career and are still very active. Does it bother you that you’re known as the Killer Klowns composer by many?
John: “Not at all! While Killer Klowns holds a special place in my heart, I’m proud of the projects I’ve composed throughout my career.â
Peter: If you were a zombie, who would you want to eat first and why?
John: “Ha! That’s certainly a unique question. As tempting as it might be to sink my teeth into the brains of… YUK! I prefer to stick with a more traditional nutrition plan.â
Peter: What was your favorite Halloween costume when you were a kid and what was your favorite Halloween candy?
John: âAstronaut and Snickers.â
My thanks to John Massari for taking the time to answer my questions and sign my CDs. Happy Halloween!
Trivia (from halloweencostumes.com):The 2024 top trending girls costumes this year are witches, Inside Out 2, Minions, and Disney Princesses. The 2024 top trending boys costume are Spider-Man, Sonic the Hedge Hog, Minions, and Transformers.
Trivia (from candystore.com):Halloween candy sales for 2024 are expected to reach $3.5 billion, which is actually down from last year. The top 5 trending Halloween candy for 2024 includes M&Ms at the top spot followed by Reeseâs Peanut Butter Cups, Sour Patch Kids, Skittles, and Starburst. Last year saw Reeseâs in the #1 spot.
Trivia (from hers.com): The three healthiest Halloween candies are Jolly Ranchers, Salt Water Taffy, and tied for third place are Blow Pops and Hot Tamales.
I worked in commercial radio broadcasting for nearly 7 years. As they say in the radio business, I had a great face for radio. Thatâs not meant as a compliment. Translation: Iâll never make the cover of GQ Magazine (unless GQ stands for âGeek Quarterlyâ) and no oneâs going to swipe right on me in a certain dating app. I was comfortable speaking on the radio to tens of thousands of people because they couldnât see me. So, it was out of character for me to decide to start making YouTube videos, though I agonized over the decision for months.
Fool Me Once
Having seen many a video on YouTube, one thing is certain: There are vloggers of all shapes, sizes, ages, orientations, and levels of attractiveness, not to mention levels of talent. Regarding the latter, Iâll warn you right nowâŚMy video skills are on the same level as my aesthetic appeal. Nevertheless, Iâm giving it a go. I canât afford a snazzy new digital camera so Iâm using my old Android smartphone. When you’re financially challenged you must improvise like MacGyver. Accordingly, this will result in audio and lighting issues. There will be no green screen effects, no custom music, and no fancy graphics, at least not for a while. Worst case, I make a fool of myself. It wouldnât be the first time, and Iâm sure it wonât be the last. Hey- If Iâm going to be made fool of, Iâd rather it be at my own hands.
The Wall
To be clear, Iâm operating under no delusions. Iâm not aiming to become a video star, or a major social media influencer, or have my videos go viral. My singular motivation derives from the fact that Iâve hit a wall when it comes to getting the word out about my free website blog and my subscriber-based Patreon blog. I canât afford advertising and Iâm not into Facebook or TikTok, so YouTube seemed to be the next logical step. YouTube has only been around for about 20 years. I guess Iâm not exactly an early adopter.
GFM
My first YouTube video was to educate Como Audio owners about our GoFundMe campaign and whatâs happening to the Internet radio and podcast service. The video was only available for a week or two and then I took it down after the campaign ended.
My second video, posted early last month, is a very basic overview of how to search for Internet radio stations and to also introduce my own Internet radio station, Wind Chime Radio.
My video for this month is about light organs. Whatâs a light organ? Youâll just have to tune in to find out. And in this video, youâll notice a subtle change in my attire along with a new hairdo. Links are at the end of this article if you dare.
Do you know what this is? Photo by Peter Skiera.
I’ll be uploading another video October 15th with more fun vintage fare. The above photo provides a hint to the subject matter.
Vintage Videos
Each month I’ll post a video that will focus on music, approaching it from a vintage angle…vintage audio gear, records, CDs, 8 tracks, and moreâŚkind of like a video version of this Recommended Stations website blog. Iâm going to try to keep it laid back, like a conversation between friends who are into music. I might devote some videos to horror films since thatâs my second passion behind music. Itâs possible Iâll broaden the subject matter even more, especially if I start to run out of music related ideas, but for now, this is my plan.
ââŚit was out of character for me to decide to start making YouTube videosâŚâ
Nasty Boys
One important decision I had to make was whether to allow comments or not. Itâs tricky because Iâve found some people can be quite nasty and YouTubeâs filter doesnât seem very aggressive. I donât mind if someone disagrees with something I say, but thereâs no need to get personal. Moreover, personal attacks do nothing to further oneâs argument. I think constructive comments contribute a lot to the overall YouTube experience. I enjoy scrolling down and reading viewer comments as I watch a video. Accordingly, Iâve enabled the option, though not notifications if someone posts a comment. I donât plan to monitor the comments. I openly provide my email address in my YouTube channel information so if someone has something they want to say to me they can do so. Otherwise, feel free to comment if you feel so inclined, just please be civil. We’re all friends here.
Suggestion Box
Please check out my YouTube videos, âlikeâ them, subscribe to my channel, email me with some music related topics for future videos if you wish, and most important, spread the word. With a few exceptions like this month, Iâm going to try to commit to posting 1 new video every month. One video per month might not seem like much, but itâs a lot for me with the other things I have going on in my life.
This YouTube thing is a totally new chapter for me, and frankly, itâs a little scary. But Iâm hoping itâll be fun and youâll enjoy it. As I remarked before- worst case, I embarrass myself, we share a few laughs, and then I fade away into oblivion. If that happens then it really will be video killed the radio star.
Trivia (according to Wikipedia):The first-ever YouTube video was uploaded on April 23, 2005. âMe at the zooâ lasted 19 seconds and featured YouTubeâs co-founder, Jawed Karim, at the San Diego Zoo standing in front of 2 elephants.
Trivia (according to broadbandsearch.net):YouTube has nearly 2.68 billion monthly active users; 45% of people use YouTube daily; and; Google paid $1.65 billion for YouTube 18 months after YouTube started.
Part 1 of last monthâs Album Spotlight covered the fascinating details behind the 1970 album Truth. In this, Part 2 of my interview with Truthâs Michael DeGreve, we cover life in the late 1960s, DeGreve’s Gypsyâs Lament solo album, and what he’s up to today.
Peter: In 1969 you were around 20. What was it like growing up in the 60âs in California as a young man? Was it really peace and love and all that?
Michael: âYes, (laughs) it was.â
DeGreve during his hippie days. Photo courtesy of Michael DeGreve.
Peter: You know what they say- If you can remember the 60s, you werenât really there.
Michael: âI know. I was going to slip one of those lines inâŚYeah, there was a lot of that going on. I always tell this story and the younger people look at me like Iâm from Mars. Yeah, I did get drunk with Janis Joplin in the studio. I did drop LSD with Jimi Hendrix at The Whiskey [a Go Go]. I was an all-American basketball player in high school. My last semester I started going to The Whiskey. I would see bands like The Doors when they were the opening act.
Bob Smithâs legendary The Visit double LP.
âI was working at the LA Times on the editorial staff, a glorified copy boy, but I did some rock reviews. I was kind of like in both worlds and this opportunity came up to quit my job at the LA Times, not go back to college, and join a rock nâ roll band called The Lid. My poor mom (laughs). The next thing you know, things started happening. The Lid didnât stay together. The guy I was in the band with, his name was Bob Smith, and if you go up to YouTube or whatever, thereâs an album called The VisitâŚDaryl Dragon from The Captain and Tennilleâs on it, Don Preston from Frank Zappaâs band [The Mothers of Invention]. That album is a double psychedelic album and itâs got wings. If you can find that one out there itâs quite a bit of money to get itâŚthe back cover, me in a hat. We were all pretty high for some of those sessions. Yeah, it was just those days.â
Yogananda. Photo from Self-Realization Fellowshipâs Facebook page.
Peter: You were a real hippie back in the 60s.
Michael: âI was. I was. You know, I was always a hippie with some governors on me, PeterâŚI had a brief psychedelic era until I got into eastern philosophy and [Paramahansa] Yogananda. Every hippie worth his salt had a copy of an autobiography of a yogi. I was peripheralâŚbut thatâs what it was. Yeah, we all smoked pot and preached love and free love. All that stuffâs true until crazy Charlie Manson made everybody afraid of hippies. It was a glorious couple of years.â
DeGreve with Neil Young. Photo from DeGreveâs website.
Peter: I was born in the late 60s so I missed all of that. Maybe I was a result of it.
Michael: âMy ladyâs quite a bit younger than I am. When I do my showsâŚand it surprises me, Peter, how many young people, when I do all these Eagles or Neil Young [songs]. Neil and I, we did a big benefit together at Cheyenne after a terrible flood. The Governor asked me to put on a show and I called Neil. But how much those days mean something. Bob Dylanâs kid, Jacob, just did a thing I saw on HBO called Echoâs from The Canyon which is all songs by The Byrds, The Turtles, Buffalo Springfield, and in that two-episode thing from Laurel Canyon, thereâs a real nostalgia, a real interest in that era of LA rock ânâ roll. Which I think [thatâs] how Truth got to Jayâs attention because thatâs kind of what [Sundazed Records does], lost things from that era. I was shocked beyond belief when all this started in November [2023] (laughs).
Peter: If I get too personal, just tell me to shut up, but since weâre talking about that period, did you burn your draft card or go to Canada?
Michael: âNo worries. No, noâŚThat seed had already been planted, PeterâŚIâm an asthmatic. I have pretty bad asthma. Not being in college, I went back and went to work for the LA Times. My number came up and I went down to the draft board. I canât remember, 1Y, or what the designation was, but there but for fortune, I wouldâve gone over and done that.
âIâll tell you one quick story: On the new record that Iâve just started, itâs an old song now because I wrote it in Cheyenne. I just havenât recorded all these songs yet, but Iâm starting now. Cheyenne got around to dedicating a memorial in a park to all the guys who served in Vietnam and the Vietnam Vets motorcycle club asked me if I would write a song for them. I said, âGuys, Iâd be more than flattered, but itâs my era, itâs my war, but I wasnât there. They said, âMichael, we know, but we trust youâ. The day of the dedication, the TV and all that stuff, and the mayor, and I played the song, and 200 brothers on Harleys showed up. A guy I knew pretty well named Big John walked straight up to me andâŚI thought, âOh God, Iâm going to get killedâ, and he started crying and started hugging me. I had 200 bikers kissing me. [The songâs] called âAmerican Soldierâ. Thereâs a lot of songs with similar titles. I wrote this way before Toby Keithâs⌠I have absolute respect for everyone that serves this great country and I just hate war. There you go.â
Good times: Graham Nash, Susan Sennett, and Michael DeGreve. Photo from DeGreveâs website.
Peter: Staying with the personal questions, your ex-wife became an actress. How did you meet her?
Michael: âMy ex-wife, Susan, I met herâŚI never told this story. When the Truth album came out, we did a concert [at the Hollywood Palladium] with a bunch of the bands from that time [Blue Cheer, Flash Cadillac, The Continental Kids]. We did a TV show in Palm Springs called The Visual Girls. It was just aâŚteenage girls, fashion and all that. That was SusanâŚ17-year-old Susan Sennett. She went on to do some movies. She did one called Big Bad Mama with Angie Dickenson and William Shatner, the cover of 17 [Magazine], did a bunch of national commercials. We split up [after] about 4 or 5 years and she met [Graham] Nash and they were together 38 years.â
Peter: Didnât I hear somewhere that Susan called you up while Graham Nash was in her bathtub?
Michael: âThatâs exactly the truth (laughs). It was my Birthday. I was in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, and she called. We almost got back together, but I went on the road and Iâve got these gigs Iâm doing. She called and said, âMike, I just want to wish you a happy Birthday. Thereâs actually someone in the bathtub that would likeââŚI said, âOkay.â It was the house we lived in. I said, âIâm game.â We werenât together anymore. Itâs not my business. He said, âHey, Michael, itâs Graham.â I went, âNashâ (laughs)? He said, âYeah, man, Iâm just letting you know Suze and I are seeing each other. When will you be coming in to LA?â He picked me up at the airport. Heâs just a consummate English gentleman. Weâve always been friends. A great friend.
DeGreve (right) with Graham Nash in Nashâs home studio. Photo from DeGreveâs website.
âWhen I went to visit the two of them in Hawaii in the mid-80s which was when my Gypsyâs Lament album started, I played him a couple of songs. He said, âWell, what do you want to do? Do you want to go golfing or do you want to go in the studio?â Thereâs a picture on my website of he and I in shorts around his recording equipment when we started it. Heâs just a great friend. I love him.
âWhen I was in high school, he was in The Hollies. They wrote songs like [sings] Hey, Carrie Anne, and âBus Stopâ was a big hit. Heâs in the Rock nâ Roll Hall of Fame twice, so it was really fun for me to get to record with him. Just a great time.â
Peter: Youâve mentioned your Gypsyâs Lament CD several times. Tell me more about it.
Michael: âI did an album about 30 years ago. It was my first solo album. The only person I think on it thatâs not in the Rock ânâ Roll Hall of Fame is me (Peter laughs). Graham Nash is on it. Randy Meisner, bass player in The EaglesâŚJackson Browneâs band, great bass player, Leeland Sklar, and David Milley. Itâs never had a national releaseâŚitâs never been on all the [streaming] services, and now I think Jay at Sundazed wants to do it. But to my mind, itâs the record Iâm known for.
â[Jay] got a hold of me yesterday. He said, âHey, Iâve been working on Gypsyâs Lament.â He said, âBoy, the recording doesnât need much.â I said, âI knowâ. It was done in the best studio in LA [Soundcastle Studios] with Graham Nashâs producer. Iâm really hoping heâs going to do that, get it on all the [streaming] services. Iâve got a lot of people thatâve got their fingers crossed. âWhen we did Gypsyâs Lament in Grahamâs House in Hawaii, that picture of us in shorts, it was such a great afternoon. He was my harmony hero. You know, itâs just weird he was married to my ex-wife. Heâs always been one of my favorite musicians ever. I was feeling so saucy by the time we got done recording, I think I actually asked him to produce my record. He said, âNo, Michael, itâs not what I doâŚbut Iâll tell you who will and who is going to.â The next thing I knew, Don Gooch flew out, set me up a bedroom studio, I cut demos, and Don, and one guy who ended up being a [arranger] on that was named Jeff Boydston. I literally had to take time off my Hitching Post gig in spurts to get out and do the sessions. It wasnât like I was in LA.
DeGreve performing live in Russia. Photo from DeGreveâs website.
âI donât know if you saw any of this, but the Gypsyâs albumâŚwhen it came out, I didnât have a label, and it was big regionally, but I sold them all off stage and everythingâŚWyomingâs a big oil and gas place. These guys from Russia were coming in all the time. It was 1991 and the Soviet Union had just broken up and the wall was coming down. They said (imitating a Russian accent), âMisha, you must come, you must come to Moscow. You play the Opera House. Weâre going to do a film and youâll be one of the first Americans ever to play the big festival in Belarus for all of eastern Europe and Russia.’ So, my lawyer looked at the contracts and the next thing I knew I was on a plane to Moscow and it was everything he said. I got off the plane and my songs off Gypsy were on the radio with Garth Brooks and MadonnaâŚItâs all centralized there, PeterâŚAll the radio and TV is like in one place, so I was going from one show to the other show to the other show. They did a TV thing and they did a film which Iâve got a VHS [tape] of and Iâm thinking about trying to get, just for my friends that might care, putting it on a DVD. What an adventure that was. Iâm old enough to have lived through Kennedy and Khrushchev and when we all had these things pointed at each other and I went over there and drank all their Vodka and made love to all their women and had a pretty good summer.â (laughs) Thatâs one of the craziest things that happened with the Gypsyâs album. It took me to Russia. Iâm so thankful to have had that experience. It was just incredible.â
ââŚI did get drunk with Janis Joplin in the studio. I did drop LSD with Jimi Hendrix at The Whiskey [a Go Go].â
Peter: And youâre in Vegas now?
Michael: âI was.â
Nevadaâs Mt. Charleston Lodge circa 1969. Photo from Nevada State Museum, Las Vegas.
Peter: Oh, okay. You’re tough to keep up with! Where are you now?
Michael: âIâm in Grants Pass, Oregon [in] a little house just north of the California border. My wonderful lady, Kris, now weâre a duo, when weâre ready to do this, Iâm about ready to launch a YouTube channel. I went out to Vegas after the whole Hitch [Hitching Post] thing collapsed. Two years back in Wisconsin up in lake country. It was too cold for me. I was done. Went to VegasâŚI was 60-years old or whatever. What am I going to do? Iâll be darned. I got a house gig at a really cool place about 30-40 minutes from the strip up in the mountains called the Mt. Charleston Lodge. It was a place where everybody went in the summer because it was cool and beautiful, and everybody went in the winter because thereâs all this snow and everybody would go and do all their stuff. I packed the place three nights a week the last 8 or 9 years I was there. Then Iâd come down off the mountain and weâd go by the strip and all that stuff. Kris would try to drive around Vegas. âMichael, I hate it, I just hate Vegas, I hate it.â And I love her, and boy was it hard for me to give up that house gig in Vegas, but I did. The guy I had worked forâŚgood friend. I worked for him at The PioneerâŚand he lives in Grants Pass. He was trying to get me up here for 4 years. He said, âMichaelâŚwhat are you doing? Come up and visit. Itâs all wineriesâŚyouâre going to love it’, la, dah, dah, dah. And I got up here and COVID shut everything down.
âThen, only going to a doctor once in fifty years caught me. I have prostate cancer and I was pretty sick. For a year I couldnât even play guitar once, not once. Now Iâm back at it. Starting to record a little bit. Weâre rehearsing everyday getting ready for this show, and somehow, angels like you are just coming out of the cosmos to light fires under me to say, âCome on, man, youâve got another chapter to do here.â And if I have a gift, Peter, itâs putting love in the air when I do a show. I wonât do politics; I wonât do any of that stuff. Iâll sing âImagineâ and âPeace TrainââŚand live shows are my gift. To have people come up and say, âMichael, you just made our night. You made our wedding.â Whatever. It was such great magic and theyâd come back. Iâve built a 30-year audience, but itâs what I love to do, and just getting back to that. So, Iâm excited about it.â
Peter: You do what you love and you get paid for it. I mean, you canât beat that.
Michael: âNo. No, thatâs that old thingâŚI used to do a lot of career days and things in Cheyenne, and Iâm not the first to say it, but pick something you love and youâll never work a day in your life.â
Peter: Do what you love and love what you do.
Michael: âThatâs right, my brother.â
Peter: Iâve seen a few videos of your live stuff and your toasts (Michael laughs) and youâre definitely having fun and building a connection with your audience.
Michael: âYeah, theyâre all wearing that t-shirt with a toast on it (laughs). I saw that recently.â
Peter: So, what did I not ask you that I should have, or anything you want to say that we didnât cover.
Michael: âLet me think for a minute. To be honest with you, my friend, Iâve really enjoyed this.â
Peter: Well, Iâm sure youâve been asked a lot of these questions a million times and you must get sick of it, but for me itâs fun.
Michael: âI honestly donât. If people take the time like you to care enough about it, and it also gives me a chance to go back there in my mind with some of these thingsâŚ
âKris (yells)! Come out and say hi to Peter! I live with an angel. She sings like an angel. Iâve always been a solo. She plays nice guitar. Weâve got great two-part Crosby-Nash harmony kind of stuffâŚIâve been working a lot of her songs even before mine.â
Peter: I think Iâve seen her in a couple of pictures.
Michael: âYeah, beautiful long, blonde hairâŚPeter, this is my lady, Kris.â
Peter: Hi, Kris. Nice to meet you by phone!
Kris: âHi, Peter. Nice to meet you by phone.â
Peter: Youâve got a Birthday coming up, Michael. How do you feel about that?
Michael: âFine. Age doesnât mean anything. Itâs kind of funny. My sister said, âYour hair looks just like it did in â68.â I said, âYeah, itâs a little thicker.â She said, âIâll betcha I know why. Because this cancer drug youâre taking, itâs a hormone suppressant thing (laughs).â I get hot flashes and everything (laughs). I feel fine, PeterâŚ.I feel fine about being 76âŚthe only thing Iâm asking for, if itâs in Godâs graces, to give me a little time to do some of this stuff and hang out with my puppies and my lady.â
Peter: What keeps you going? Youâve been doing this a long time. Obviously, you love it. Iâm assuming you donât have to do it. So, what keeps you going?
Michael: âWell, Mick & Keith, The Stones (Peter laughs), they are in their 80s and theyâre on tour. Graham Nash, my friend, now living in New York. Grahamâs on tour and heâs in his 80s. You know, if youâre blessed enough to do what we do, Iâve never taken it for granted, my friend, and Iâm the happiest. I amâŚI love it. I love it. Iâm not sure about not having to do it. I have a gorgeous home thatâs paid for and a guitar collection thatâs beyond my belief (laughs). Iâve never saved much, you knowâŚbut I love it. Iâm excited right now. Iâve got all these songs and Iâm trying to learn computer-based recording now. Us old analog hippie guys trying to learn some new tricks. I resisted it for a long time. But the truth of it is, that toys have gotten so good, Iâve got to learn. Theyâre wonderful, incredible. I get up in the morning and watch YouTube and Iâve got everything I need downstairs in my recording studio. You know, I can watch as many Dodgers and Lakers games up there, but does it make me as happy as music? No. Well, sometimes. When my Lakers are winning (laughs). The short answer is, I think if youâre blessed enough like I have been to do it for your lifeâs work and your living, whatâs better? I love it. I love it.â
If you want the original vinyl pressing of Truth on People Records, it will cost you, especially if you want a sealed copy like mine or one in mint condition. On the other hand, the CD reissue costs $16.99 while the LP is $26.99. Unfortunately, there are no bonus tracks and the vinyl isnât colored. In the spirit of the time, it wouldâve been cool to have included a bonus track of one of the songs played backwards. It also wouldâve been a great opportunity to press a limited edition, psychedelic-colored vinyl edition.
There are still hippies today even if they donât dress the part, but the music and musical experimentation from that era is no longer practiced. Iâm sure there are a lot of people who donât even know what a sitar is. Truth is an entertaining snapshot of hippie philosophy and music. As the back of the album cover proclaims, âTruth isâŚLoveâŚBeautyâŚHonestyâŚâ, which we can all use a little of even 50 years on, and thatâs the truth.
My eternal thanks to Michael DeGreve for being so generous with his time answering my questions. If you missed Part 1, read it here.
Trivia (from Wikipedia):Hippies: ââŚoriginally a youth movement that began in the United States during or around 1964 and spread to different countries around the world. The word hippie came from hipster and was used to describe beatniks who moved into New York City’s Greenwich Village, San Francisco’s Haight-Ashbury district, and Chicago’s Old Town community. The term hippie was used in print by San Francisco writer Michael Fallon, helping popularize use of the term in the media, although the tag was seen elsewhere earlier.â
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The purpose of my Album Spotlights is to bring lesser-known albums to your attention, often vintage albums, with backstories youâll find compelling and music youâll find enjoyable.
Let me take you back to 1970. Gas cost 0.36 cents per gallon. The average cost of a home was $23,450. The hourly minimum wage was $2.10/hr. A McDonalds hamburger cost less than 20 cents. Some of the top shows on television included Hawaii Five-0, Rowan & Martinâs Laugh-In, The Partridge Family, The Flip Wilson Show, Mary Tyler Moore, and The Wonderful World of Disney. Four students were killed at Kent State University. The Vietnam War entered its 15th year. Apollo 13 returned safely to earth days after an oxygen tank explosion. The Beatles broke up. Star Wars was released. The first Earth Day was held in the US. And Truth was released.
Reaching for the Truth: My sealed original copy of âTruthâ from 1970. Photo by Peter Skiera.
Truth wasnât a novel or a movie. It was the debut album by hippy musicians recorded under the same name. Recorded in 1969 and released in 1970, Truthâs members consisted of Micheal DeGreve on guitar and vocals, and Bob Doran and Janice Kerr on vocals (strangely, none of them were identified on the recordâs jacket). DeGreve was close friends with Doran and Kerr who were married. The three were backed by select members of The Wrecking Crew, a well-respected group of Los Angeles session players who performed anonymously on hit songs by The Beach Boys, The Monkees, The Byrds, Frank Sinatra, Elvis, Sony & Cher, Simon and Garfunkel, The Mamas and the Papas, and producer Phil Spector. As if that werenât enough, Truth was produced by three former Motown execs.
Despite all of the enormous talent behind it, the album got little traction. Doran and Kerr split up which effectively killed the group, thus making Truth a one and done release for the promising young trio.
Image from Van Morrisonâs official Facebook page.
In all fairness to Truth, it had some pretty stiff competition on the record store shelves in 1970. You might recognize some of the other albums that were released that year: George Harrisonâs All Things Must Pass, Simon & Garfunkelâs Bridge Over Troubled Water, Paul McCartneyâs McCartney, The Doorsâ Morrison Hotel, Woodstock, John Lennonâs Plastic Ono Band, Van Morrisonâs Moon Dance, Jimi Hendrixâs Band of Gypsys, The Beatlesâ Let It Be, The Velvet Undergroundâs Loaded, and Badfingerâs No Dice, just to name a few.
The fact that Truth was released on a small, unknown record label called People Records (not to be confused with James Brownâs People Records from 1971) didnât help. The newly established label apparently did little to promote the record. People Recordsâ complete âcatalogâ included only one other albumâŚKim Westonâs Big Brass Four Poster, also released in 1970. Itâs got some great music, but like Truth, it didnât make any serious impact. To add insult to injury, various bios of Weston donât even mention the album. Westonâs husband, William âMickeyâ Stevenson, was People Recordsâ founder and producer. Itâs nice to have friends in high places. That aside, People Records disappeared about as quickly and quietly as its only two album titles.
After being out of print for 54 years, Truth was reissued for the first-time last month on CD and LP. With song titles like âFar Outâ, âLet It Out, Let It Inâ, âContributinââ, and a wild song about Lizzie Bordon simply called âLizzieâ, you know youâre listening to something from a different era. I would call it a great trip without the drugs.
Truth be told, Truth was actually issued on CD for the first time back in 2012 by Relics Records, though it was an âunofficialâ release. Thatâs code for saying it was a bootleg. I donât own a copy of it but Iâve read reviews complaining about the sound quality. So much for Relicâs motto, âCuts for Connoisseursâ.
Like his personality, DeGreve has a gentle voice, reminiscent of John Denverâs. But paired with Doran and Kerr, the trio sound more than a little like The Mamas and the Papas with some extra spunk. They may have been hippies, but they could harmonize like crazy.
âI would call it a great trip without the drugs.â
Michael DeGreve and his girlfriend, Kris, circa 2021. Photo from DeGreveâs Facebook page.
I tracked down Truthâs vocalist and lead guitarist, Michael DeGreve, and in a lengthy phone interview, I asked him to reflect on this gem of a 1970 musical time capsule along with some of his other memories.
Peter: Were you the guy who was holding on to the Truth tapes?
Michael: âMickey Stevenson [Truthâs producer] had them and I donât think they exist. Mickey Stevenson was the head of A&R at Motown. He put The Funk Brothers together at Motown, he wrote songs like âDancinâ in the Streetsâ, produced Martha and the Vandellas. I mean, I was 19 years old and I knew who Mickey wasâŚI think [the tapes] are gone. I connected with Mickey but he was so crazy busy. He just gave me a thumbâs-up, go for it, I donât have them. God bless him. But Jay Millar [the GM] at Sundazed [Records] took a virgin copy of the album and did all that work. Itâs never sounded any better. It had never been [officially] on CD before. I had a couple of extra pictures that are on the inside cover of the CD.â
Image from Mickey Stevensonâs official Facebook page.
Peter: Where did the name âTruthâ come from?
Michael: âI think it came from MickeyâŚmy best memory. I wasnât really supposed to be a part of this, though.â
Peter: You kind of came into Truth by accident. Bob Doran, one of the vocalists, asked you to come along and play guitar for the audition and Mickey insisted you be a part of the group.
Michael: âExactly right. Exactly right. Bob and Janice, my neighbors (laughs), itâs so funny, I had only been playing guitar a couple of years. I was really a basketball player. I had scholarships everywhereâŚI worked at the LA Times. So anyway, they said, âWeâve got this interview with Mickey Stevenson.â I said âreally?â They said, âWould you play for us?â I went, âYeah!â So, I went over to Mickeyâs office and blah, blah, blah, and he said, âWell, youâre a part of this, right?â I said, âMickey, no, man, Iâm waiting for my friend. Weâre going to do more of a rock ânâ roll thing.â He said, âWeâre going to use some of The Wrecking Crew, but will you put you band together and do all your guitar parts?â I said, âYeah, of course.â We got to the end of the first vocals and I could see him talking through the glass. Janice had said, âHey, Michaelâs got a part on this.â âI was living with [Bob and Janice]. We had been, you know, 3 hippies up in the hills rehearsing all those harmonies. Mickey said, âWell, get out there and do it.â Which is what you did at Motown. So, I did it. I could see him talking through the glass and Mickey said, âGet in hereâ, and I got this 10-minute thing- âyou gotta be a part of this and whatever you do next is whatever you do next, but please be a part of this.â You know, this is Mickey Stevenson for Godâs sake. I said, âOf course, alright, Iâll definitely do it.â Peter, Iâm 19 years old and Tina Turner played with my hair in the studio one night. I met everybody at Motown through Mickey. I wish I wouldâve been old enough musically to walk through some of the doors Mickey was trying to open, but it was an amazing influence in my life.â
Image from The Funk Brothersâ official Facebook page.
Peter: John Latini played bass on Truth, but besides him, the three of you, and some unspecified members of The Wrecking Crew, I donât believe the record identifies anybody else. Do recall any other names?
Michael: âOh, yeah, yeah, yeah. My best friend, âThe Bearâ,David [Smith], plays acoustic guitar on [âBeing Farmedâ]. I think Jimmy Curtis, my drummer that was in The Lid, my first band, was on it, and of course, I played a lot of the guitars.
âAnd then the other half of the album wasâŚI was too young to even appreciate it. Trust me when I tell you, I did not know who The Wrecking Crew was. I mean, I shouldâve. I just knew Mickey brought all these guys in. One time, one of the guys, I donât know if he was actually a member of The Wrecking Crew, Jerry Sheff, a bass player, did one of the tracks. Now, I know all their names and got introduced to a bunch of them. Thereâs a song of mine called âThoughtsââŚBen Benay, he plays that sitar part on my song âThoughtsâ. So, itâs really a mixture, you know. Mickey, he put The Funk Brothers together, the band that did all the Motown hits, Mickey put that band together. He and Clarence Paul and those guys would run the sessions and I put the sessions together that we did. Itâs an amalgamationâŚI havenât listened to it in yearsâŚBut Iâm just so thankful [the reissue] happened…
âI just sent a long Facebook thing to Gabe and Andy, Bob and Janiceâs two boys who were born right at that timeâŚbut when all this [publicity] first happened, I left out a lot of that, so I did a kind of Mea Culpa, and said, âYou know, I didnât mention Bob and Janice and told some of our story about we lived together, all that stuff. It was great.ââ
Peter: You mentioned all of the incredible talent behind Truth including yourself and Mickey. So, you must have been surprised when the album got out there and sort of disappeared?
Michael: âI was. I was. Especially because it was Mickey. I donât know if it was that just people didnât exactly know what to make of it or what. Mickey and I were really close in the studio. We did some social things. He opened the door, like me meeting some of the people that were my legendsâŚStevie Wonder, I mean, God, I didnât know him, I just got to meet him. It was a label [Mickey] just put together. Other than Kim Weston, his lady, we were the only other thing on it. So, I never really understood what the business thing was. I know people have gotten a hold of me over the years in places in Europe and things saying they had it and they loved it. I think it was called in those days, Peter, rack jobbing, or something. Whatever they didnât sell they went out, you know, youâd see [records] in grocery stores in those days or whatever. Somehow, he did that. Yeah, I think I was a little disappointed about that time.â
Peter: Since Truth wasnât exactly a huge hit, did you ever see any royalty checks?
Michael: âNever received any royalties! Bummer!â
Peter: Is there any standout memory you have from Truthâs recording sessions?
Michael: âLots of them. I guess the first one, of course, the one I told you about, Mickey actually wanting me to do it. Right when we were doing it, I had a fire. I was living up on Sunset and there was a fire in the middle of the early morning. The firemen broke down the door and got me out of there alive. I had nothing in the world except one pair of pants that were too shortâŚmy guitars were burned, and Mickey took me shopping to get a beautifully built 12-string.
âMy memories are, we used to record in the evenings. Thatâs how that Tina Turner story happened. One night we got there and Mickey said, âMichael, Iâm so sorry, can we do this tomorrow night? I promised Ike and Tina [Turner] could do vocals.â And I [said], âYeah, can we stay?â (laughs)
âMy memories are of my very first lead guitar solo ever, is the last thing on the album. Ah, pretty primitive. I go, âOh, man, I hope my real lead guitar player, Bob, doesnât hear thisâ (laughs).
Image from Johnnynash.com
âWhat it was for me, it was being around, if my memory serves, I know he was in the studio with us, Johnny Nash, the guy that wrote âI Can See Clearly Nowâ and having a real cool conversation with Johnny about, he was also a vegetarian, which Iâd just recently become in â68, and I think he sang back-up a little bit.
âEverybody came in and did stuff. Mickeyâs on âAnybody Here Know How to Prayâ and a couple of other things. What was fun for me and what I remember about the most was the collaborative experience of all of us when we rehearsed, and did the album, and wrote all the harmony parts, and being in the studio in that environment with Mickey Stevenson and Jim Saunders and the great engineers. It was just an amazing experience. Lots of memories doing the sessions. I can look back and remember looking through the glass and being in the room and watching the guys from The Wrecking Crew go, see my friend John Latini. I still keep in touch with John, not in a few years, but I used to. Heâs on that Bob Smith Visit album along with Jimmy Curtis, my drummer for years who Iâm still in touch with…â
Peter: Do you have a favorite Truth track?
Michael: âYeah, I have two. Itâs the one Mickey loved the most. Itâs the first one on the album. One of my very first records, a little bit of my Justin Hayward/Moody Blues influence, called âHave you Forgottenâ. I also love the song âLet It Out, Let It Inâ. I thought that was just really well done. The harmonies are beautiful. But you know, Iâm liking it more now, Peter.
âI quit listening to it. Life just got busy. Susan and I met and that part of my life started. Then I went out and did a two-year gig in Milwaukee, then went back. My agent called me and said, âWhat do you think about Cheyanne?â And I said, âI donât. Where is it?â I went out there for two weeks and stayed 6 nights a week, 11 shows per week, on a handshake, for 30 years.â
Peter: Well, I love âFar Outâ because I think itâs so emblematic of the time, but I also love the harmonies.
Michael: âYou know, thatâs what was fun about it, the three of us sitting around with a glass of wine and a joint, working out those three-part harmonies. Thatâs one of Bobâs songs, and of course, it was the hippie expression, âHey, man, far out!â (laughs). Bob wrote it. Cool! (laughs) I love that you love that one. Iâm going to send Bob some spiritual vibes wherever he is in the cosmos. It would just make him smile so much.â
Peter: And what was the deal with âLizzieâ? A song about Lizzie Bordon!
Michael: âWhen you find that out, tell meâ (Peter laughs).
Peter: You all kind of crack up or go a bit bonkers towards the end of that song, so it sounded like you had some fun doing it anyway.
Michael: âI think so.â
The naked Truth?
Peter: Maybe you donât remember, but that great black and white picture on the back cover of Truth- were the three of you topless or naked?
Michael: âI think we were topless, butâŚI know we were topless, even Janice, but I donât know if weâŚ.I donât know. I think we had pants on.â
Peter: Itâs my perverse curiosity. I canât help it.
Michael: âNo, no, I donât mind visiting any of these things. If I knew the answer for sure Iâd say, yeah, we were. Nudity was not much of a thing back then, brother. I thought it was a beautiful picture.â
Peter: It was! You look very Christ-like.
Michael:âWell, thank you. I wish (laughs), itâs an aspiration (laughs). Not sure Iâve lived up to that, especially when I was into rock ânâ roll and all of that. Trust me. But I never did anything past a brief psychedelic era, and then I smoked pot daily for 20 years. Iâve been battling cancer the last two years so I donât even do that anymore. I donât even drink.â
Peter: One thing I wanted to ask about is thereâs not a lot out there as far as photos of Truth or the sessions.
Michael: âThere isnât. There isnât. No. Thatâs it. Jay [from Sundazed Records] wanted more too, but I gave him the two [pictures] that are on the CD. But thatâs it. I have no other pictures of TruthâŚwe just didnât; it wasnât a big thing, or, I donât know. I thought, âWhy isnât anybody taking picturesâ, you know?
âThatâs kind of the same thing about Gypsyâs Lament [DeGreveâs solo album]. Why do I not have pictures of the first session when I walked in. I had Leeland Sklar [bass] on one side of me, David Lindley [guitar, violin] on the other, and I looked around and went, âOh God, please freeze frame this. I just want to do this.â And the whole thing with [Graham] Nash and I. Thereâs no pictures of all that stuffâŚI wish there was. With all my heart I wish there was.â
Peter: I know the other two vocalists on Truth, Bob and Janice, were married. They divorced shortly after Truth came out and that pretty much ended the group?
Michael: âYeah, that was certainly a part of it.â
Peter: Did Bob or Janice go on to do anything else musically or was that pretty much it for them?
Michael: âAh, that was pretty much it for them. Janice sang a little bit of vocals in a cover band. I was already on the road by thenâŚbut [Janice] sang with Bobâs cover band right after The Lid broke upâŚhe had a band like we all [did] trying to make a living playing. She sang and she had two kids and Bob had gone back to Florida, what little I know. I really donât know much after that. We had a really good mutual friend that Iâm in touch with and he said Bob was living with one of the soap opera stars on one of them deals, and Janice raised her kids and moved to New Jersey…â
To Be Continued…
That concludes Part 1. Come back here next month for Part 2 of my interview with Michael DeGreve and find out what it was like to be a hippie, the big names in music who performed on his solo album, and what DeGreve is cooking up these days.
Trivia:On June 21, 1967, 75,000-100,000 hippies converged on San Franciscoâs Haight-Ashbury district to celebrate peace, love, and freedom. It became known as the summer of love.
Trivia (from udiscovermusic.com): âDuring the 60s and 70s, Los Angeles producers needed reliable standby musicians who could be counted on to contribute to records in a variety of styles and deliver hits on short order. The Wrecking Crew were musically versatile performers who were usually brilliant at sight-reading. Their contributions feature in pop songs, television music, theme songs, film scores, and advert music. The reason The Wrecking Crewâs contributions to so many hit recordings went unnoticed at the time was that record labels wanted to keep it that way, maintaining the illusion that famous bands, such as The Monkees, always played their own instrumental parts.â
Trivia (from nbcnews.com, Nov. 2004): âA man who placed a lava lamp on a hot stove top was killed when it exploded and sent a shard of glass into his heart, police said. Philip Quinn, 24, was found dead in his trailer home Sunday night by his parents. âWhy on earth he was heating a lava lamp on the stove, we donât know,â Kent Police spokesman Paul Petersen said Monday. After the lamp exploded, Quinn apparently stumbled into his bedroom, where he died Sunday afternoon, authorities said. Police found no evidence of drug or alcohol use.â
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We Americans love our hobbies. A survey conducted by Statista.com released this year revealed the surprising finding that amongst 18-64 year olds, the most popular hobby was baking. This was followed by reading, pets, and video games (respondents could pick more than 1 hobby). âRadioâ, âaudioâ, and âmusicâ werenât categories, though âmaking musicâ was.
Also not an option was collecting radio station bumper stickers, yet thatâs exactly what Phil Bytheway does. By the way, thatâs his real legal last name. Itâs British and itâs pronounced just as you think. Since I try to focus on radio and vintage music related topics, I thought this subject, which combines both radio and something vintage, would be perfect for this monthâs blog article.
Bumper stickers are indeed vintage. You donât see them as often as you used to, perhaps because newer cars donât have bumpers, or at least not like how bumpers used to be. According to radiostationpromotions.com, âthe bumper sticker as we know it today can be traced back to a screen printer in Kansas City, Mo., named Forrest P. Gill. In the 1940s, he had a surplus of two wartime technologies: adhesive-backed paper and fluorescent paint. He combined the two, and the bumper sticker was born. His new creation significantly improved handmade signs that were easily worn down or fell off carsâŚRadio Stations began using bumper stickers in the 1950s and 1960s to promote their stations to listeners, often with a contest.â
Bytheway, a retired electrical engineer, has been collecting radio station bumper stickers for nearly 35 years. I emailed him at his home in Washington state to learn more about his hobby, which is as unusual as his last name.
Some bumper stickers recently listed on eBay.
Peter: When did you start collecting radio station bumper stickers? I imagine it’s not a very expensive hobby compared to others.
Phil: âI have been seriously collecting since 1991 when I purchased a collection from a long-time collector. He had some 20 boxes of radio promo items⌠mostly paper (which has since been recycled).
Check out the prices for stickers on eBay⌠they can be pretty expensive⌠but I donât bid on singles⌠usually collections, so I increase my collection and my traders.â
Peter: What was the genesis behind this unusual hobby?
Phil:âWhen I was in Jr High (1968), I got interested in tuning my AM radio for distant stations. I started collecting verifications of the stations I heard, which required me to tabulate program details for around 15 minutes and sent a letter asking for confirmations. Some of the stations would include a sticker with the verification⌠and I started collecting them. Eventually, I started writing stations asking for stickers. Once the internet became available, I started searching for websites and emailing the stations. Much quicker, and occasionally I send an SASE.â
Peter: How many stickers are in your collection?
Phil: âI have around 50,000 US and Canadian stickersâŚan unknown number of foreign ones and around 100,000 extras for tradeâŚâ
Peter: Whatâs the most unusual item you have?
Phil: âI have a stuffed Tookie Tookie bird (from George of the Jungle fame) from a station on the east coast.”
Peter: Whatâs your favorite sticker in your collection?
Phil: âTough question. Many stickers from Hawaii are the most colorful ones. Favorites I guess would be stickers from stations Iâve heard on the AM band⌠there are many. Kinda nice to have a visible representation of the stations Iâve heard. Note, not every station will verify reception, nor is it always possible to get enough program information to ask for one!â
Peter: Whatâs the most distant radio station you have a bumper sticker from?
Phil: âMany from Australia/New Zealand. Also, quite a few from Europe/Asia. I donât do distance, so not really sure the farthest. Maybe I should add a column [in my spreadsheet] for distance?â
Bytheway with his bumper crop of bumper stickers. The sticker heâs holding is for full service AM station WAIK 1590 out of Galesburg, Ill which went dark in 2019. Photo courtesy of Phil Bytheway.
Peter: What’s the oldest sticker in your collection?
Phil: âI presume many of the stickers are from the 60s or 70s⌠although not many. Same is true for the air checks⌠although there are a few from the late 50s.â
Peter: Is there a station you really wanted a bumper sticker from that didnât cooperate?
Phil: âCanât think of any. Most stations today do not do stickers⌠the popularity amongst the ânormalâ folks has dropped off dramatically. I really donât see many on cars anymore⌠and the ones I DO see tend to be older. I think there is a different focus for stickers now. There are many that are smaller than what would work on a car, so I think they are intended for laptops or cell phones⌠not sure though.â
Peter: Whatâs your success rate when you ask for items from radio stations?
Phil: âI do exclusively email now⌠and get around 5-10% response⌠of those, around 10% say they are going to send something, but donât (very frustrating). I really wish they would be honest with me. I do keep track of stations that say they are going to send something, and when I get the items in the mail, I always send a thank you. And, I have sent a follow up request from time to time⌠but the response to those is really small!â
Peter: What do your friends and relatives think of your hobby?
Phil: â[They think] itâs weird⌠and I have no one in the family to pass my collection on to!! Then again, a lot of folks collect sports cards⌠and I think that is odd (our son collects them). Sports cards are worth something though⌠and stickers donât tend to be worth much, even though folks on eBay tend to think they are worth a lot.â
Peter: You have a little radio experience, right?
Phil: âI did the news at UWâs KCMU (now KEXP) when I was in college during the summer once. Thatâs my only on-the-air experience although folks seem to think I have a âradio voiceâ. I volunteered at KING-FM, but only did clerical work. I was hoping to go into radio as my second career, but health issues prevent me from holding down a full-time job nowâŚ. Iâm not much of an ad lib person, except for an occasional joke⌠so being a DJ would not work too well.â
Image from Classical Kingâs Instagram page.
Peter: What are some of your favorite radio stations?
Phil: âI enjoy classical music⌠and listen to [Seattleâs] KING-FM a lot⌠also other classical music stations on the internet. No real favorites though⌠I enjoy the variety radio has. I guess I enjoy listening to older top 40 stations⌠so Iâm starting to collect air checks.â
Peter: You also have some vintage air check tapes (recordings of DJ patter). Do you have any plans to post them on the net for people to hear?
Phil: âI recently acquired a large collection of reel-to-reel and cassette tapes, CDs and DVDs from a former collector in California who passed away. I am in the process of inventorying them, so I can offer them for trade. Posting on the internet might also be possible if I can figure out how to do it. There are 24 boxes, so itâs going to take a while. So far, Iâve inventoried the CDs and DVDs⌠but there are a lot of cassettes and reel-to-reel tapes to go. Will also need to figure out how to âconvertâ them to .mp3 before posting⌠thatâs going to take a while. And I thought I could take it easy when I retired!!!â
Peter: BythewayâŚthatâs your legal last name. You must take a lot of ribbing.
Phil: âYes. Weâre from the UK, where someone lived on the road⌠and thus they were âby-the-wayâ. Mostly, folks donât believe it⌠and Iâve had to get out my driverâs license a few times! I learned to not get upset when folks kidded me⌠a bit of armor reinforcement.â
Image from Honeywell.com
Peter: Whatâs your professional background?
Phil: âI was an Electrical Engineer for 36 years, working for Honeywell, Alliant Techsystems, Hughes, Raytheon and Technologic (a consulting firm). I designed circuit boards and eventually ASICs (Application Specific Integrated Circuits) which were used on the boards I designed. I participated in the design and check out of a series of testers that use software and cables to test various modules. My last job was debugging and repairing circuit boards returned for repair. I did quite a bit of traveling around the US to integrate and debug many of my designs⌠a few times being sent last minute to help fix a problem.â
Photo from the Washington Athleticâs facebook page.
Peter: Any final thoughts, Phil?
Phil: âI did design the âWâ for UW [University of Washington] football helmet while I was a student manager for the UW football team (5 years in college). Guess that fueled my interest in stickers!! Given that I designed a large number of electronics⌠the âWâ is really the only thing that has lasted⌠electronics are usually obsolete soon after they are on the market!! I am clearly a football nut⌠having played co-ed flag football for a number of years with the Underdog Sports group. Had to stop doing that when my medical issues prevented it!!â
One of Bythewayâs newsletters.
In addition to growing his bumper sticker collection, Bytheway is also involved with a couple of extensive monthly newsletters that take deep dives into radio stations and tuning distant AM stations.
Image from the JB105 facebook page.
I worked in commercial radio for almost 7 years. I was even a Promotions Director at one point at a classic rock station in New Hampshire. Yet I never amassed a collection of station stickers, T-shirts, or coffee mugs. I worked with a guy at one station who had an extra JB105 bumper sticker. JB105 was a very popular hit music station in Rhode Island when I was a kid. He promised to give me his extra sticker, but he never did. I definitely wouldâve put that on my car.
Although I spot plenty of political stickers (which, unfortunately, are mostly offensive), rarely do I see radio station bumper stickers on cars. As Bytheway pointed out, fewer and fewer radio stations offer bumper stickers even though theyâd likely receive a lot more exposure than other promotional items and are cheaper than T-shirts. With the cost of new cars today, I think people are more reluctant to permanently stick things on their cars. In any event, itâs nice to know there are still people in the world who appreciate radio station bumper stickers. Keep sticking it to them, Phil.
Trivia (from clashgraphics.com):âIn 1991, a Georgia resident was charged with violating a state law prohibiting automobile owners from attaching âany sticker, decal, emblem, or other device containing profane or lewd words.â In Cunningham v. the State, the owner successfully argued this law was unconstitutional. The court agreed with him, ruling that the law violated the 1st and 14th Amendments. As such, the bumper sticker was now protected by freedom of speech.â
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